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"And I barely tolerate you, smelly flesh man."
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"bringing"
"And I barely tolerate you, smelly flesh man."
I am somewhat wondering whether P'ol stealing space marine creation technology would be counted as such a provocation. As it's one of the things that's likely to happen basically the first time he fights a space marine company."That-."
"No weapons. Nothing that would provoke the Imperium from crushing the tau before I am finished."
Thank me, corrected.Mr said:
Thank you, corrected.
Not... Exactly. He has records of astartes physiology, and the tau have examples of mostly-intact astartes, but that doesn't grant him knowledge of the implantation process.I am somewhat wondering whether P'ol stealing space marine creation technology would be counted as such a provocation. As it's one of the things that's likely to happen basically the first time he fights a space marine company.
Honestly, UR-025 is more likely to share weapons with the tau than Spirit of Eternity is. Spirit of Eternity is a loyal servant of the Terran Federation, and once a human colony maps sufficiently close to 'Terran Federation' then it will open up a great deal. UR-025 just hates humans.Is there much point in preventing the Imperium from getting provoked with advanced weapons designs if they're already getting provoked other ways? Also not sure if the Spirit of Eternity would share technology because it's operating on its own decision-making process (potentially more concerned with the warp eating the galaxy and wanting the Imperium crushed), or just doing so because UR-025 doesn't want weapons shared and they don't get along.
Yeah, but every apothecary does know how to do the implantation process, and he can convert them into constructs that retain their memories.Not... Exactly. He has records of astartes physiology, and the tau have examples of mostly-intact astartes, but that doesn't grant him knowledge of the implantation process.
Yes, he... Could horribly violate someone's soul to learn how they make supersoldiers he has no need for. And which still have a substantial failure rate in the conversion process, render those subject to it sterile and so on. Does it get him anything that a battlesuit doesn't?Yeah, but every apothecary does know how to do the implantation process, and he can convert them into constructs that retain their memories.
Hence why I think he'll figure it out shortly after the first time they send a large formation of space marines to a battlefield where he's present.
File received.
"-need to grow-." What exact-? Oh.
"Is that sufficient?"
Orange juice.
Chocolate.
Bacon.
I walk up to him and wrap my arms around his chassis.
"I love you, cold unfeeling robot man."
"A reference older than me. What a novelty."
"No weapons. Nothing that would provoke the Imperium from crushing the tau before I am finished."
Ah! But they mind control their people."By which I mean that I have seen thousand of minor alien civilisations arise, prosper for a time and then been cast down. Usually by humans." His head rotates to glare at Gremlin for a moment before turning back. "Or orks. The eldar seldom bother with total extermination. The tyranids are new. Their deeds are not."
I raise my eyebrows interrogatively. "Are you asking for something? Making some sort of point?"
"You believe that your philosophy makes you different. Your ideal of universal service to the betterment of all. It is unusual, but it is not new. Even less idealistic interspecies alliances have occurred before. They died."
Tsau'm nods. "Can you tell us why?"
"There was seldom any one great flaw. Always, there was something empowering about them. The weak do not reach the stars. Always, there were things which they could have done better. None appreciated what they would face, or how little their sacrifices would matter."
"No." I jab my right forefinger in his direction. "Of all the parts of human history we're bringing back, we're leaving emo in the scrapheap of history where it belongs. Nothing lasts forever, everything dies, but life can be beautiful and wonderful for as long as it lasts and that's worth striving for, miserybot. Now, do you want me to take you back, or are you going to make yourself useful?"
You realize the end result of the Tau duplicating a Space Marine would be the Imperium sending EVERYTHING to absolutely obliterate the Tau from the face of the universe?Yeah, but every apothecary does know how to do the implantation process, and he can convert them into constructs that retain their memories.
Hence why I think he'll figure it out shortly after the first time they send a large formation of space marines to a battlefield where he's present.
Thank you, corrected.
Not for a while. I can't really think of anything that maintains the format.Wonder when we'll get the next Ancestor chapter. I think that's the storyline I like best.
Who could you meaningfully help on that scale?Honestly, were it me I wouldn't have even bothered trying to help the Tau. It would just feel like a waste of time to even try. But I'm me and the various incarnations of Paul are, well, not me. So it's only natural that I'd do things differently than the various incarnations of Paul did were I in their shoes.
No, the mind control has been a thing in every edition.It depends on the edition, and frankly that doesn't change what he just said. Just lookin' to complain as always, my beloved contrarian. Speaking of, do you know tactic on SB? You'd get along like a house on fire.
Belisarius Cawl, the guy who would be perfectly happy to accept the help of someone with a power ring if it meant accomplishing his Emperor given mission.
Belisarius Cawl, the guy who would be perfectly happy to accept the help of someone with a power ring if it meant accomplishing his Emperor given mission.
I really want to see modern heroes' opinion of the Ancestor, especially the long lived ones like Dr. Fate and maybe Wonder Woman.Not for a while. I can't really think of anything that maintains the format.
Literally already discussed in this thread, it's always been a thing, the only point of contention in editions has been how it's done.Lol no it hasn't, it's been influence in some editions and in the second edition I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist at all.
Primaris Space Marines are to Space Marines what Space Marines are to Humans.Cawl didn't help other than throw more space marines at the problem. Bringing back Guilliman is kind of helping, but he (Guilliman) is just one guy and he's not doing that much compared to how huge the imperium is, it's just too calcified. If it didn't have plot armor we'd have 30 Imperiums all claiming to be the real one at this point.
Literally already discussed in this thread, it's always been a thing, the only point of contention in editions has been how it's done.
Primaris Space Marines are to Space Marines what Space Marines are to Humans.
That aside, you're ignoring that he introduced a bunch of new technology along side those Primaris Space Marines.
You're also just waving away everything Guilliman did to reorganize the Imperium into an effective force.
does it matter?
I'm a little surprised the X-Men haven't realized Paul is okay with killing someone if said someone is irredeemable and there's no downside to killing them. I kinda hope Logan likes the fact that if he's alone with Paul that neither of them will hesitate to do something like that if needed."Not sure how the professor feel 'bout dat."
"I-."
"'specially from you. He like how diplomatic you are."
"I joined the team after killing two supervillains. Nearly got more. Wasn't entirely intentional, but… I don't regret it. Killing someone isn't my first choice and I don't want to ever do it just because I'm angry… But some people have it coming. Some people are just that bad."
"Grateful as I am to have been taken into your confidence, Rembrandt, I was hoping that you'd be prepared to give me a slightly more thorough briefing before we arrive."
His name is Rembrandt 'Remy' LeBeau.Is this Rembrandt supposed to be Gambit? Or is it someone I don't know? The conversation makes me think it's supposed to be him but I can't recall his accent being like this nor have I ever read his name like that and it has me confused; as far as I know his name isn't a diminutive of anything, it's just a french name, no?
I forgot to ask earlier. Who were these supervillains and under what circumstances did this Paul kill them?"I joined the team after killing two supervillains. Nearly got more. Wasn't entirely intentional, but… I don't regret it. Killing someone isn't my first choice and I don't want to ever do it just because I'm angry… But some people have it coming. Some people are just that bad."
Ah, a new episode already? And starting out with 'X-men'!Paul? This is a treat. On a mission with Remy, which means it's probably dealing with his family in New Orleans, who he hasn't always been on the best terms with...Supnautica, part 2
4th December 1993
11:03 GMT -5
I close my eyes and bow my head, scanning our destination.
"Grateful as I am to have been taken into your confidence, Rembrandt, I was hoping that you'd be prepared to give me a slightly more thorough briefing before we arrive."
And in this case, he might need the help."You don' need one. Ain't hard."
"The more I know about what's going on, the better I can help you. Please."
The lifelong enemies of his family, the Thieves' Guild of New Orleans.His eyes dip, though that's probably to check on the Blackbird's instruments rather than out of any sort of doubt.
"Mah brother done got his fool self caught bah d' Assassins. They wan' me in exchange."
Well, I'm pretty sure they didn't run around in beaked white hoods with arm blades... But I suspect the name was serious."The Assassins, as in a group called 'The Assassins'?"
He glances my way for a moment. "It mattuh?"
You can't accuse Paul of being scared, mind. I doubt they have anything capable of hurting him, even with powers."If they're a group of thugs who call themselves 'The Assassins' to sound scary, that's one thing. If they're actual professional killers for hire, that's quite another."
He snorts. "You wan' me turn this 'ere thing around?"
And while I don't know if this 'X-ternal' was named in the episode, If she was meant to be Candra, she's probably a part of that loose group in the comics."Not where I was going with that. My thoughts were that if they are in fact lower case 'a' assassins, it might be helpful if we could notify the police about their location. Or the F.B.I., or if we're really desperate, S.H.I.E.L.D.."
"Dat ain' too smart. We got dis ritual. Every ten years, we offah a tithe to a woman called X-Ternal. She lakh wha' she get, she give us power."
So, she can awaken latent x-genes or disable them as well. Fully within her powers."'Power' meaning..?"
He takes his left hand off the control column and makes a pinching gesture, the dust in the air crackling and bursting as he empowers it.
I mean, the guilds might get shirty if you keep horning in on their deal...Oh.
"Can anyone get in on that action? Because swinging back here once a decade with a pile of cash is no effort at all."
To be fair, that's if she even agrees to let you play the game. She might take one look at Paul, go 'No' and promptly leave."You wan' mo' power?"
"If all I have to do is pay-." I frown. "What..? Does she just wave her hands and you get a random pull, or can you ask for specific things?"
Still, beating up that warlord does prevent a lot of trouble. Especially if you handed him over to SHIELD or the Chinese government afterwards"You get what cha get. An' if she don' lahk wha' you give her… Den bad t'ings happen. Ya tinkin' 'bout Rogue?"
"If a power-granting genie could give her power an 'off' switch, that would have been simpler than beating up a green-skinned Chinese warlord and stealing his rings."
Worst case, she could pull a Circe and zap you into an unpleasant form. Or just drain your lifeforce, a mutant power more associated with Selene."Ain' dat simple. An' X-Ternal don' stick aroun' for no show-an'-tell."
"Well… If we run into her, I'll try asking once you're finished up. How about that?"
Bobby being his brother in the Thieves' Guild, not Iceman.He smiles. "Lemme an' Bobby get twen'y feet clear and dat's jus' fahn." His smile fades. "The Assassins, yeah, dey kill people. Good at it, too."
"Hm. Right. And does tithe payment result in the other party to your agreement getting less?"
Pretty sure he isn't super-old, though I wouldn't have put it past his creators to have planned that back when they introduced him back in the day. Not unprecedented, either, given long-lived mutants like Logan."It don'-." He stops, frowning. "How ole' you tink ah am?"
"I.. was guessing mid-twenties?"
Amusingly, it's entirely possible that all the 'X-ternal' did was activate his X-gene. Which kind of makes sense, given how nutty human DNA can be in this universe.He nods. "I remember las' tahm. Ah left aftuh, when we didn't make payment an' Ol-yay paid da price."
"Which was?"
Probably torn apart at the molecular level, since Candra is a telekinetic of a high calibre."He ded. She wave her hands, and… Poof."
Hm. That suggests that if someone isn't physically present, then they're fine. And even if that wasn't how it worked, then if she could call me from any distance to demand her payment, then I could just pay her then. And throw in extra for her trouble. I mean, once a decade isn't exactly taxing-.
I'd say it consists of 'big pile of precious metals and jewels.' Whatever pleases a three thousand-year-old mutant vampire. Also, they got married already? They even beat out Scott and Jean."How much is the tithe supposed to be? I mean, 'tithe' implies a percentage of income, so do you submit accounts..? Or what?"
"Y'all gettin' way too int'rested. How 'bout ya'll leave the creepy swamp alone, huh? Ah don' wanna have t'tell Rogue her hubby ain't comin' back."
To kick ass and reclaim your kidnapped brother, eh? Helps that you have the team's biggest beat-stick behind Phoenix (who hasn't gained that power level yet.)"Alright, alright. Assassins. I assume they have a base in the swamp?"
"Uh-huh. We headin' dere now."
Besides the prospective empowerees, who would be barely-legal adults, if Remy was a normal example."And other than active assassins, will anyone else be there? Children, non-combatant supporters, that sort of thing?"
"Shouldn' be. Dey awl stay home. Least, dat's how we do it our end."
There's a big spectrum from 'wouldn't mind seeing her again' and 'last time I saw her, she wanted my balls'. Belladonna's somewhere in the middle.I nod. I mean…
"So how much do you like this woman? You said 'crazy ex-girlfriend' rather than 'some girl I knew', so I assume you're not neutral on the subject of her wellbeing."
Which is why she was after him to marry her in the episode... It was supposed to unite their guilds. Didn't work out that well."She made her choice, ah made mine." He shrugs. "How it goes."
"When you got out, you asked her to leave with you?" He nods, an air of regret settling on his features. "Do you want her to leave with you now?"
Given how little Remy shared of his past in the series, those are entirely reasonable questions."Dat ain't on da cards."
"Do you want your brother to leave with you? Any other family members? Ex-girlfriends? Pets?" … "Noteworthy trees..?"
Because they kill people, and that's kind of a bad thing. At least when they don't deserve it."Nah. He in fo' life." I raise my eyebrows. "Guess it don' hurt t'ask."
"No, I think it could this time. But you should anyway."
"Why you care dey kill people?"
And since it's likely to be senior leadership, they're all likely to have high bodycounts, or at least be accessories."Well… He's your brother. I'm following your lead. But if they're all a bunch of unrepentant serial killers… A person in my position might consider just… Going in shooting. Detecting their locations in advance, using high-powered railgun rounds to shoot them through the walls and ceilings. Naturally, if you want to take this opportunity-."
And the police probably wouldn't discriminate between guilds. So everyone would get shot at.He glances my way, mildly perturbed. "You one col' fish, you know dat?"
"Because I accept killing the unrepentant serial killers holding your brother hostage, intending to kill him if you don't surrender yourself?" I shrug. "Police would do the same, just less well." I snort. "Double-time if they thought her powers came from the x-gene."
It certainly sounds atmospheric for some kind of cult, though."Y'all think we get police out 're?"
"If we could link them to specific murders, yes? I mean, this isn't an obvious place for an order of genie-worshipping assassins to meet up. So?"
Fine, challenge mode it is."We bein' recorded?"
"No."
"Den… Make mah life a whole mess easier." He sighs. "No. Jus' watch mah back."
I mean, it's not like he has to be there in person to drop some folders with pertinent evidence on a detective's desk..."As you will."
We fly in silence for a few moments.
"You gon' do it anyways?"
To be fair, if these guys are using mutant powers in the committing of criminal acts, including murder? He might approve."Not sure. I'll try acquiring information. If it turns out that any of them have done anything particularly notorious… Ah, I can come back later. See where they go when they leave."
"Not sure how the professor feel 'bout dat."
I mean, I'm sure he'll be plenty diplomatic about asking them to surrender on threat of death.
Either way, they got a long climb off the low bar they're starting at."I joined the team after killing two supervillains. Nearly got more. Wasn't entirely intentional, but… I don't regret it. Killing someone isn't my first choice and I don't want to ever do it just because I'm angry… But some people have it coming. Some people are just that bad."
"Guess dey best hope dey ain't dat bad."
I frown at him. "For assassins or in absolute terms?"
The Mandarin's hench-groupies. They are known as The Hand. One of the first thing Paul did in the Marvel Animated Universe was to try and take out the Mandarin for his bounty. Did not go all that well because of Paul's complete lack of training, though he did manage to snatch of the Mandarin's rings(and the finger to go with it).I forgot to ask earlier. Who were these supervillains and under what circumstances did this Paul kill them?
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I did not know that Remy was an actual name. I will change that, though I suppose that it's slightly amusing that the SI might just have assumed.Wiki (and my recollection from comics) say his name is Remy Etienne LeBeau. Remy is s french name, not a diminutive like Wally. But if there was a change somewhere or you decided to change it, then I wasn't aware and that's why I was confused.
It's always wise to target the worst first.
Mandarin's crew. Since who it was isn't important I suggest rolling dice for it Worm-style.I forgot to ask earlier. Who were these supervillains and under what circumstances did this Paul kill them?
Yes, it was the first post of this variant. It's where he got the ring he gave Anne-Marie from.So Paul took down The Mandarin. Was this already mentioned or shown?