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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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nick012000 said:
Calling it now: Sunset's going to turn into an alicorn to defeat the Tantabus after it escapes to the real world to turn Equestria into a "land of nightmares" as the wiki put it, or as a side-effect of its defeat.
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With the corruption of the Anti-Life it's more likely to turn things into a land of Horrifying Futility.
 
Pinklestia said:
They survive brainwashing all the time.
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Yea, that's like a normal Tuesday for them.

And that assumes the Anti-Life equation will even work on them. Which it normally wouldn't since Cutie Marks and the way they cement a Pony's purpose would actively short circuit a portion of the equation.
 
Vaermina said:
Yea, that's like a normal Tuesday for them.

And that assumes the Anti-Life equation will even work on them. Which it normally wouldn't since Cutie Marks and the way they cement a Pony's purpose would actively short circuit a portion of the equation.
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Not this particular part of the Anti-Life equation. It'd just show them that using their talents would just lead to more pain. I'm going to guess that it's going to hit the Mane Six with their memories of the Grand Galloping Gala, for instance.
 
RichardWhereat said:
Black Bolt fucked a pony?
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Sort of. A reverse-centaur.
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Chojin Patriarch said:
Correction:
...thinking that thing were otherwise...
...thinking that things were otherwise...
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Thank you, corrected.
 
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When he says horse does he mean that one where other species that were turned into their own versions of inhumans showed up, i seem to remember one of them looked like a horse, or was it something else?
 
Darko said:
When he says horse does he mean that one where other species that were turned into their own versions of inhumans showed up, i seem to remember one of them looked like a horse, or was it something else?
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Yes, that's a reference to the Kymellian Inhumans.

The Kymellians actually have their own Fantastic Four analogs, the Force Four- Firemane, Ghostmare, Teamleader, and Thunderhoof.
 
Vaermina said:
The moral of this story.

Don't fuck with ponies.
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Meh. The real moral here is don't fuck around when you have a world-killing WMD in a poorly shielded container. Grayven could have gotten blasted with the Elements a dozen episodes ago if he weren't taking time off to bully a bunch of teenagers.
 
"Oops!", well, no one else seems to have said this, and I thought it needed to be said. :)

(I might speculate on the 'new pony' being named 'Life Pain'... Or, maybe, 'Pain Life', if 'Life' is the family name.)
 
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TheEyes said:
Meh. The real moral here is don't fuck around when you have a world-killing WMD in a poorly shielded container. Grayven could have gotten blasted with the Elements a dozen episodes ago if he weren't taking time off to bully a bunch of teenagers.
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He was actively trying to get them to blast him, and they kept refusing to.

This was him attempting to explain why it would be a good idea for them to do it, and it finally almost worked before Luna's dream entity apparently decided to help it escape? Which means this might also just be a nightmare and it hasn't actually done anything to it.
 
Did the white emotional spectrum exist before Zoats cutoff of new 52 happen?
 
Mr Zoat said:
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Wonder if Darkseid would be delighted or horrified to know that the ponies can, by complete accident, create something capable of eating a fragment of the anti-life.

Also a rather fascinating insight here:
Having known this.. piece, I shudder to imagine what he'd have to become to make that happen."
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Grayven does not believe Darkseid is unaffected by the anti-life. Him integrating fragments isn't just putting them in a box, it is altering himself such that he can accept their message as true and continue regardless.
Some parallels with emotional enlightenment there.

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Paragon, Fluttershy, Yellow.
Interesting combination.
 
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Darkseid has Black quote marks and those who used the equation like Key also had those which could simbolise Black enlightenment so yeah it could take them developing a certain mindset to use a piece and remain functional
 
Blackgutter said:
Did the white emotional spectrum exist before Zoats cutoff of new 52 happen?
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Yes, showed up at the end of Blackest Night, and had its own storyline Brightest Day, about stopping Black Lantern Firestorm from destroying the universe, and Swamp Thing supposedly becoming the new White Light Entity.
 
WereDragon said:
Wonder if Darkseid would be delighted or horrified to know that the ponies can, by complete accident, create something capable of eating a fragment of the anti-life.

Also a rather fascinating insight here:Grayven does not believe Darkseid is unaffected by the anti-life. Him integrating fragments isn't just putting them in a box, it is altering himself such that he can accept their message and true and continue regardless.
Some parallels with emotional enlightenment there.

Paragon, Fluttershy, Yellow.
Interesting combination.
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It's the other way around, the thing completely obliterated the orange ring of avarice, and the gray mass that represents the anti life stretched to meet it.

By destroying the orange ring the entire containment structure was weakened and this allowed the anti life to interface with the BDSM self torture tool Luna created.

By definition the smaller mass cannot absorb the larger one, this event was similar to a drop of water being pulled towards a pond.

Heck using that analogy I would say the thing came off Luna and was being dragged towards the anti life due to the greater pull of its "mass".
 
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If events even go anywhere near the structure of the canon episode, then Grayven probably doesn't need to worry any longer about being gradually hollowed out by the manifested shard of supernal truth of life's futility, since Tantabus is absconding with the fragment.

On the other hand, Tantabus is absconding with the fragment.

Hmm...
 
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Stsword said:
Yes, showed up at the end of Blackest Night, and had its own storyline Brightest Day, about stopping Black Lantern Firestorm from destroying the universe, and Swamp Thing supposedly becoming the new White Light Entity.
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swamp thing is a nice person. But I thought he was connected to the plant green, is he now connected to the animal red?
 
Maxx Crowley said:
Now I"m all annoyed again. Don't even get me started on Steve managing to overpower SPIDER-MAN for fucks sake. Parker could have solo'd Cap's entire fucking team. With only G.I.Ant-man able to more than get the fuck smack laid down upon him.
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In multiple media it's been pointed out that while Spiderman is more powerful than Captain America, Cap would still win that fight almost every time. It's not just that the MCU version is quite a bit more powerful than you're giving him credit for (that version of Cap held down a helicopter that was trying to take off, a feat that would be equivalent to curling several tons, which means that he probably is quite capable of punching with the force of small artillery). Its also that he's far more effective at using what he has than Spiderman is, especially when you're talking about a young and inexperienced Spiderman.

Maxx Crowley said:
As I recall, peak human was the stated outcome, but just like Batman, he's clearly super-human.
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Far moreso than Batman, yes. See the above "held down a helicopter" statement.

Rebu said:
Can you dual mantle? Because I'm pretty sure ol' Gravy's becoming the New God of Foster Dadding.
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Mantling isn't a thing here. Zoat doesn't even know where it comes from (well, he probably does by now, but he hadn't bothered to update the FAQ last time I checked) so he's certainly not going to steal the concept.

Queshire said:
Night has a favorable match up against Conquest.
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Um....What? How so? I'm genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion..

Sun Dog said:
You'll note deterrence always comes up in discussions of the merits of a death penalty. Retribution, sometimes, but I guarantee in any serious debate about capital punishment, deterrence will come up early and often, and the raft of evidence that this is minimally effective at best- criminals tend to strongly believe they won't get caught- will be brushed off. Because that is the strongest argument for death.
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I disagree strongly with that last bit. Deterrence is, as you've pointed out, not a particularly strong argument for the death penalty. But incapacitation? Once a psycho is dead they can't hurt anyone ever again.
 
So on some of the earlier comic stuff. The MLP comics tend to be quite a bit contradictory. Like, just about every time Nightmare Moon has come up in the comics they've explained it differently. Hell, there was one comic about people from alternate timelines that had a version of Daybreaker and Nightmare Moon and they became that way simply because they were raised by a villain instead of Starswirl.

Basically, between the show and the comics they kind of constantly flip flop between Luna just turning evil due to to jealousy or actually being possessed by something.

Though more often than not it seems to be Nightmare Moon is just what happens if Luna decides to be evil rather than something that was forced on her.

Point is, you can't just say that something is true because it appeared in one of the comics. In the comics, Sombra was redeemed and went on a world spanning adventure with his waifu, Radiant Hope.

In the show?

 
I'm pretty sure that Zoat wrote it so Luna created Nightmare as a sort of "magic courage" and things went horribly wrong in his story.

Also Zoat if you write that Warhammer chapter I wonder if that version will have a yellow ring.
Jumped up elementals knows he'll be powerful enough to survive that crapfest of an aborted universe if he has one.
 
Siskulous said:
Um....What? How so? I'm genuinely curious how you came to that conclusion..
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Under the cover of night generals are seduced. Under the cover of night rebels meet and conspire against their conquers. Under the cover of night bombs are placed and armies are ambushed.

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Well, using those parts of night fit a fanfic version of Luna better than one sticking closer to canon.
 
Chaoswind said:
It's the other way around, the thing completely obliterated the orange ring of avarice, and the gray mass that represents the anti life stretched to meet it.

By destroying the orange ring the entire containment structure was weakened and this allowed the anti life to interface with the BDSM self torture tool Luna created.

By definition the smaller mass cannot absorb the larger one, this event was similar to a drop of water being pulled towards a pond.

Heck using that analogy I would say the thing came off Luna and was being dragged towards the anti life due to the greater pull of its "mass".
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Given the Tantabus was capable of altering reality and the Anti-Life even with the full equation can only effect minds, I think you may have which was larger backwards.
 
Darko said:
Also Zoat if you write that Warhammer chapter I wonder if that version will have a yellow ring.
Jumped up elementals knows he'll be powerful enough to survive that crapfest of an aborted universe if he has one.
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No, he got orange.

Bear in mind that I was interested in Warhammer during... 3rd Edition? Whichever one it was that had a cardboard Grom in the box. More modern stuff will probably get skipped.
 
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