With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

[Mr Zoat]

For the timeline it can be anytime after her betrayal.

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But there's a radical difference between the shape of both Tamaranean society and the shape of Vega between the time she captured Koriand'r and the time Tamaran was destroyed. You can't lump everything together and expect a simple answer..

Kori could have been trained in how to rule before being sent to the Okaarans and she could have also had some tutors sent with her to help with things other than becoming a warrior.

Seeing as Kom was not going to get the throne her parents may have put more focus on Koris training.

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Though I'm assuming you changed it in your story so that she didn't betray them, seeing as Raul mentioned something about them conquering the planet without any help, and not just him not knowing about it because no one mentioned it.

Wonder what Raul would think about that if he found out she betrayed her world, assuming she did that in your story.

So if they leave her in place to rule, would Raul and Zaul at least warn her to not do all the evil shit she did in the comics, like attacking her sister and her friends, unless she wants to become a trophy on the wall or a battery?

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She probably did, actually. It just wouldn't have mattered in the longer run if she didn't. Realistically, winning over one teenage girl wouldn't change the course of an interstellar war. Koriand'r mentioned that the gordanians were already bombing her world when she was growing up, and we see what Tamaran looked like after Komand'r's truce was broken in a later episode.

 

[Darko]

But there's a radical difference between the shape of both Tamaranean society and the shape of Vega between the time she captured Koriand'r and the time Tamaran was destroyed. You can't lump everything together and expect a simple answer..
She probably did, actually. It just wouldn't have mattered in the longer run if she didn't. Realistically, winning over one teenage girl wouldn't change the course of an interstellar war. Koriand'r mentioned that the gordanians were already bombing her world when she was growing up, and we see what Tamaran looked like after Komand'r's truce was broken in a later episode.

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After her betrayal but before the destruction of Tamaran.

Still if she betrayed her planet I think Raul would still be pissed about his fiance doing that, assuming he knows it, though you write him so maybe he knows and something about his personality makes him not hold it that much against her.

If Raul meets comic Komandr after everything she did I'm pretty sure he would kill her.
That is if she isn't leading her people after her planets destruction.

If he lets her comic version live because he doesn't want Tamaran descending into chaos, and Kori is incapable of leading them for whatever reason, would he at least tell her to not do any of the evil shit she did in the comics, like trying to kill her sister and her friends, if she doesn't want him putting her skull on his wall or at least letting her know what having Red Light acid on her face feels like if she engages in evil shit he doesn't think is necessary, because she may have to deal with some unpleasant people seeing as she lives in Vega, but nothing more than what is strictly necessary and her murder attempts are pointless acts of pettiness, so are not necessary?

 

[Mr Zoat]

After her betrayal but before the destruction of Tamaran.

Still if she betrayed her planet I think Raul would still be pissed about his fiance doing that, assuming he knows it, though you write him so maybe he knows and something about his personality makes him not hold it that much against her.

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Not necessarily.

What you have to remember is that Komand'r is a manipulative polymath. We don't know exactly why she did what she did, but if she had the wherewithal to say something along the lines of 'Tamaran was going to lose anyway. All that I changed was turning it from a total surrender to a negotiated surrender. One of getting enslaved rather than all of us.' then that fits Red's view of the universe perfectly well. It's not as if she's tried murdering her sister since coming to Earth, and she did go back to Vega once she had enough force to defeat the gordanians.

If Raul meets comic Komandr after everything she did I'm pretty sure he would kill her.
That is if she isn't leading her people after her planets destruction.

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He'd certainly try.

If he lets her comic version live because he doesn't want Tamaran descending into chaos, and Kori is incapable of leading them for whatever reason, would he at least tell her to not do any of the evil shit she did in the comics, like trying to kill her sister and her friends, if she doesn't want him putting her skull on his wall or at least letting her know what having Red Light acid on her face feels like if she engages in evil shit he doesn't think is necessary, because she may have to deal with some unpleasant people seeing as she lives in Vega, but nothing more than what is strictly necessary and her murder attempts are pointless acts of pettiness, so are not necessary?

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No, because it would be an empty threat, and might distract her from doing the things that she needs to do in order to keep her peopel alive.

 

[Pinklestia]

Any reason they can't just regrow a body from the bits left after the explosion, then toss the body in a Lazarus Pit?

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Probably the insanity thing.

Even if its just a few hours you don't want an insane Red Queen.

 

[Ace Dreamer]

If you don't need a live Red Queen, more what she knows, then would talking to her spirit be enough? So, you need a vaguely sane necromancer, who'll cooperate because they, too, want the world to go on existing?

 

[Pinklestia]

If you don't need a live Red Queen, more what she knows, then would talking to her spirit be enough? So, you need a vaguely sane necromancer, who'll cooperate because they, too, want the world to go on existing?

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Is Deadman on this League contact list?

 

[Darko]

Raul may actually be able to summon her spirit.

When he went to Sunnydale he tried to summon some spirits and ask them questions.

Though maybe Krona has some contingencies in place for that.

He is an extremely ancient and powerful being so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that he can destroy souls.

 

[Nervaqus987]

It's adorable that he thinks he has a chance in hell against The Spectre.

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The Spectre doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to Black Rings.

 

[Vaermina]

The Spectre doesn't exactly have the best record when it comes to Black Rings.

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Wrong Spectre, this would be the still living James Corrigan not the undead Crispus Allen.

 

[Pinklestia]

Wrong Spectre, this would be the still living James Corrigan not the undead Crispus Allen.

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Then undead Paul could summon ghosts of all those James killed to fight him and he wouldn't able to do a thing due to being rightful revenge.

Heck some people he killed could have been caught by the law, but he just decided to kill them anyway.

 

[Vaermina]

Then undead Paul could summon ghosts of all those James killed to fight him and he wouldn't able to do a thing due to being rightful revenge.

Heck some people he killed could have been caught by the law, but he just decided to kill them anyway.

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The Spectre snaps his finger and Undead Paul, and his Ring, explode.

 

[Matthew Frost]

Is there a way to read just paragon or just renegade versions, or do I just have to deal with your schizophrenic writing?

 

[Mr Zoat]

Is there a way to read just paragon or just renegade versions, or do I just have to deal with your schizophrenic writing?

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In my schizophrenic story you're stuck with my schizophrenic writing.

I guess you could try the radical step of scrolling past the clearly marked bits you don't want to read. That might work.

 

[Pinklestia]

The Spectre snaps his finger and Undead Paul, and his Ring, explode.

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He was a lot less powerful while still being human.

 

[LurkingInTheDeceit]

In my schizophrenic story you're stuck with my schizophrenic writing.

I guess you could try the radical step of scrolling past the clearly marked bits you don't want to leave. That might work.

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Is it weird that I just started reading your writing at some point, not reading the start of any of your SI's timelines, and I'm doing fine/enjoying myself? It jumps around from one timeline I know nothing about to another I've seen a bit of before, but I don't really feel the need to catch up for some reason? It might have something to do with how I consume fanfiction, in that I've not experienced the original setting outside of that fic, so I enjoy what I can and accept what I don't know.

Tangent, carry on don't mind me.

 

[Coda]

containment was breeched

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Well this can't end well...

 

[Idkusername]

In my schizophrenic story you're stuck with my schizophrenic writing.

I guess you could try the radical step of scrolling past the clearly marked bits you don't want to leave. That might work.

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I'm pretty sure he's a troll, despite joining since 2018 he has only 2 comments, both on this story. His first comment is, and I quote, 'what is this nonsense' in May of last year after the Sybarite update.

I'm not sure why I spent the effort to check, but eh.

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Well this can't end well...

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Nah, see, containment refers to a OC nudist superhero forced to wear breeches by his peers. If anything, it should have been 'Containment'.

 

[Mr Zoat]

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Thank you.

And now it's pony time again!

 

[Mr Zoat]

2nd April 2012
14:04 GMT -6

Luna stares blankly at the panorama visible from her balcony. Looking closely, I can see her mouth moving as she mutters to herself.

"…knock on effect of government spending artificially inflating demand, preventing the self-correcting function of the market place, and in the longer term..."

Maybe… Jean put in a bit too much.

"Luna?"

She doesn't look around. Her ears don't even flick, and I thought that was an involuntary action.

I walk closer, waiting for the sound of my hooves against the stone to provoke a response.

…

No… Doesn't appear to be happening. Hm. I don't want to stomp, because this stupid city is still perched on the side of a mountain, but… I prance a little in place.

Nothing.

"Luna, you alright? It wasn't… Too much for you?"

"…study has shown that the cost to the state of rehabilitation is in the longer term less than the cost of pure confinement…"

…

She sounds fine.

Hm. I look around, but the guards who brought me here appear to have either been ordered to wait outside or were so unnerved at seeing an alicorn like this that they retreated to somewhere where they wouldn't have to watch it.

I trot forwards until I'm standing over her unresponsive body, then tilt my head slightly forwards and lick the tip of her horn.

"Uh?"

Tastes like… Keratin. I lick it again, just in case I'm missing-.

"We knowst not precisely what you are doing, but We will thank you to stop."

I withdraw my tongue, looking down as Luna looks up at me. "Back with us?"

"What do you mean?"

"You were staring into space and muttering to yourself."

She rolls her eyes. "We were doing no such-." She blinks, looking up at the sun. "Why hath the sun moved?"

"No, no, see, for questions like that, you want the big white pony. You might have met her, actually, she's got a giant sun on-."

"We know perfectly well who it is that moves the sun, dalcop. We have-. Didst We really lose so much time?"

"Yeah, and I think Jean'll have to come back another day. You're not supposed to space out like that. I tried speaking to get your attention and it didn't work."

"But why didst you lick Our-." She starts to smirk. "Did you think it was… Sensitive?"

I look away. "Might have."

"Hah! Your ignorance of pony physiology may prove your undoing. Didst you not remember when our horns clashed in mortal combat? Didst you feel any great erotic sensation-"

"Yes."

"-then from your horn?"

"No, b-"

"Then why didst you think that We would?"

"-uuuut, I thought that might have been because you were using combat magic and I wasn't usually a pony." I bend my legs slightly, the fur of my unarmoured belly just brushing the fur of her back. "So where should I lick?"

"To create a sudden shock, We recommend the ears."

"Ok-."

Her eyes narrow. "Try it with Us and We shall see if your ardour remains after being hurled from a mountain."

I bend my neck to the right and lower my head until my muzzle is level with her ear.

"What happens if the answer is 'yes'?"

Her horn glows midnight blue and she discorporates, turning into shadows before flowing out from under me and recorporating.

"Little."

"It's not that l-."

"Are you here for a reason, or do you merely wish to vex Us?"

"Checking that the session went alright. I also want to introduce you to my eldest." She tenses slightly. "I mentioned-?"

"Yes, you… Did. The daughter who can read minds."

"That's her. Don't worry, she's done the full telepathic ethics course. And we both know that you go into people's dreams without prior consent, so don't be a hypocrite."

"You-?" She shakes her head. "Yes, We are prepared to meet her."

I turn towards the door. "Lynne!"

The door opens a little, Lynne's muzzle poking a short distance through. Then she shoves, the door opening fully and displaying her to Luna.

Lynne is a short alicorn, smaller even than Twilight Sparkle. Her mane and tail are jet black, while her pelt is a grey a shade or two lighter than my own. Her cutie mark is near-identical to my own as well, the only difference being that the axe blade is slightly larger and has a Ψ character on the side as decoration. I.. think I expected her pelt to be white as a reference to her Justice League Animated costume, but she hasn't ever actually worn something like that. And this could well be a result of my soul donation.

Lynne awkwardly genuflects, bending her front legs and lowering her head.

**Good afternoon, Princess Luna.**

"Greetings, Llyn." Luna smiles, and trots closer. "We are pleased to meet you. We-." She cocks her head to the side. "Didst you just speak to Our mind?"

**Daddy has his rings to translate for him. I have to connect to your mind to understand what you're saying.**

"We see." Luna considers, and appears to accept that.

I was planning to ask Sunset about dubbing her knowledge of the language, but she was in such a state after yesterday that I didn't want to push-

"OOF."

-things.

The three of us turn to see the dirt-encrusted form of Sunset Shimmer laying on the balcony, struggling to climb back to her hooves.

"Sunset? What are you doing?"

"Oh." Legs trembling, she regains quadrupedalism. "Hey Grayven. I think I'm studying earth pony magic."

"You.. think..?"

She takes a deep breath. "It's a challenging teaching st-"

A boulder slams down on the balcony from above, shearing it from the face of the palace!

"-yle!"

 

[Citizen]

Sunset, I think you mean 'this style totally ROCKS!'


...I'll see myself out.

 

[Darko]

Think Luna said Lynne's name incorrectly, unless she didn't know how to pronounce it that is.

What is that other symbol near Lynne's cutie mark and what does it mean?

Now all we have to do is wait for Maud............................................................. HURRY UP AND SHOW HER ALREADY.

 

[JerkRyanShadowWanker]

WHY BONER.... but yeah that was both cute and funny.

 

[TheMidnightRook]

"But why didst you lick Our-." She starts to smirk. "Did you think it was… Sensitive?"

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You mean it isn't? Fimfiction.net's been lying to me!

 

[Handlewithcare]

Reminds me of Toph's earthbending teacher style.

Lynne is cute pony!

Grayven is such a good daddy he got his daughter (turned into) a magic pony!

 

[Akatsunami]

So what you mean is that ponies are insensitive on their horny areas huh?

Well, that does explain a lot actually.

 

[Chojin Patriarch]

2nd April 2012
14:04 GMT -6

Luna stares blankly at the panorama visible from her balcony. Looking closely, I can see her mouth moving as she mutters to herself.

"…knock on effect of government spending artificially inflating demand, preventing the self-correcting function of the market place, and in the longer term..."

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Woof, looks like she's getting a little overwhelmed by information?

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Maybe… Jean put in a bit too much.

"Luna?"

She doesn't look around. Her ears don't even flick, and I thought that was an involuntary action.

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Boy, she is really lost in thought...

I walk closer, waiting for the sound of my hooves against the stone to provoke a response.

…

No… Doesn't appear to be happening. Hm. I don't want to stomp, because this stupid city is still perched on the side of a mountain, but… I prance a little in place.

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Yeah, this is more than simply being lost in thought... Too much info downloaded too fast?

Nothing.

"Luna, you alright? It wasn't… Too much for you?"

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Oh, that's not even a double entendre...

"…study has shown that the cost to the state of rehabilitation is in the longer term less than the cost of pure confinement…"

…

She sounds fine.

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Sarcasm doesn't really come across in your own head, Grayven...

Hm. I look around, but the guards who brought me here appear to have either been ordered to wait outside or were so unnerved at seeing an alicorn like this that they retreated to somewhere where they wouldn't have to watch it.

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Heh. Either way, time for some... Totally not naughty fun.

I trot forwards until I'm standing over her unresponsive body, then tilt my head slightly forwards and lick the tip of her horn.

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Lewd! Usually you don't give Horn-jobs until at least the third date!

"Uh?"

Tastes like… Keratin. I lick it again, just in case I'm missing-.

"We knowst not precisely what you are doing, but We will thank you to stop."

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Now, embarrassed or annoyed? Or perhaps both?

I withdraw my tongue, looking down as Luna looks up at me. "Back with us?"

"What do you mean?"

"You were staring into space and muttering to yourself."

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"And not in the enjoyable way. Totally in a trance..."

She rolls her eyes. "We were doing no such-." She blinks, looking up at the sun. "Why hath the sun moved?"

"No, no, see, for questions like that, you want the big white pony. You might have met her, actually, she's got a giant sun on-."

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Wow, she must have really been deep. Good thing ponies can't get sunburn... Easily...

"We know perfectly well who it is that moves the sun, dalcop. We have-. Didst We really lose so much time?"

"Yeah, and I think Jean'll have to come back another day. You're not supposed to space out like that. I tried speaking to get your attention and it didn't work."

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Definitely need to fine-tune the process, get the gremlins out of it...

"But why didst you lick Our-." She starts to smirk. "Did you think it was… Sensitive?"

I look away. "Might have."

"Hah! Your ignorance of pony physiology may prove your undoing. Didst you not remember when our horns clashed in mortal combat? Didst you feel any great erotic sensation-"

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What?! Rule 34 has lied to the internet!

"Yes."

"-then from your horn?"

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Because of course he was enjoying himself...

"No, b-"

"Then why didst you think that We would?"

"-uuuut, I thought that might have been because you were using combat magic and I wasn't usually a pony." I bend my legs slightly, the fur of my unarmoured belly just brushing the fur of her back. "So where should I lick?"

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Hey, it pays to learn your partner's favourite places. Being able to make her knees weak with little more than a kiss pays off.

"To create a sudden shock, We recommend the ears."

"Ok-."

Her eyes narrow. "Try it with Us and We shall see if your ardour remains after being hurled from a mountain."

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Ah, she already knows him so well. This relationship has potential...

I bend my neck to the right and lower my head until my muzzle is level with her ear.

"What happens if the answer is 'yes'?"

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Oh, my. Well, the Venom Buster he used does give super-durability, and that's only enhanced by his Godhead...

Her horns glows midnight blue and she discorporates, turning into shadows before flowing out from under me and recorporating.

"Little."

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And she's not talking about his body...

"It's not that l-."

"Are you here for a reason, or do you merely wish to vex Us?"

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"Well, the latter I can do at any time. Why not while attending to business?"

"Checking that the session went alright. I also want to introduce you to my eldest." She tenses slightly. "I mentioned-?"

"Yes, you… Did. The daughter who can read minds."

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And I wonder if that got translated into magic or not...

"That's her. Don't worry, she's done the full telepathic ethics course. And we both know that you go into people's dreams without prior consent, so don't be a hypocrite."

"You-?" She shakes her head. "Yes, We are prepared to meet her."

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Brave pony. This could be scarier than facing down Tirek...

I turn towards the door. "Lynne!"

The door opens a little, Lynne's muzzle poking a short distance through. Then she shoves, the door opening fully and displaying her to Luna.

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Adorably cautious. Squeeing at the ready!

Lynne is a short alicorn, smaller even than Twilight Sparkle. Her mane and tail are jet black, while her pelt is a grey a shade or two lighter than my own. Her cutie mark is near-identical to my own as well, the only difference being that the axe blade is slightly larger and has a Ψ character on the side as decoration. I.. think I expected her pelt to be white as a reference to her Justice League Animated costume, but she hasn't ever actually worn something like that. And this could well be a result of my soul donation.

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Interesting. I take it that sharing part of his soul helped pour her into a Him-shaped pony form. And for reference: Her Cutie mark's symbol is a Facses, same as Grayven, with the greek letter Psi as a chaser. How appropriate...

Lynne awkwardly genuflects, bending her front legs and lowering her head.

**Good afternoon, Princess Luna.**

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Huh, straight to telepathy. Then again, she does lack the power ring translation ability.

"Greetings, Llyn." Luna smiles, and trots closer. "We are pleased to meet you. We-." She cocks her head to the side. "Didst you just speak to Our mind?"

**Daddy has his rings to translate for him. I have to connect to your mind to understand what you're saying.**

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Heh, thought so. And I doubt she can upload the pony language quite as easily as a G-Nome could...

"We see." Luna considers, and appears to accept that.

I was planning to ask Sunset about dubbing her knowledge of the language, but she was in such a state after yesterday that I didn't want to push-

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Good move. Better to let her settle into her new body and powers first.

"OOF."

-things.

The three of us turn to see the dirt-encrusted form of Sunset Shimmer laying on the balcony, struggling to climb back to her hooves.

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Getting used to her wings, I see... Might want to ask Lightning Dust for lessons...

"Sunset? What are you doing?"

"Oh." Legs trembling, she regains quadrupedalism. "Hey Grayven. I think I'm studying earth pony magic."

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"...I wasn't aware it allowed you to fly... Or was that a leap gone wrong?"

"You.. think..?"

She takes a deep breath. "It's a challenging teaching st-"

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Not that tough, surely?

A boulder slams down on the balcony from above, sheering it from the face of the palace!

"-yle!"

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...Okay. Someone needs a lesson in the durability of local architecture. This is not the sort of thing you should be doing here!

Ah, Lynne's a cutie. And to point out: The symbol on her Cutie Mark is the Greek letter Psi. As in psionic. It was kind of spoiled if you read the unused parts Mr Zoat posted a couple of days back...

 

[AidanMorgan]

Honestly I thought he was just trying to do something that would inject so much concentrated "huh" that Luna stopped staring into space.

 

[RichardWhereat]

What is that other symbol near Lynne's cutie mark and what does it mean?

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That's the greek letter Psi, and amongst other things, as a symbol it can mean:

Psychology, psychiatry, and sometimes parapsychology (involving paranormal or relating with the supernatural subjects, especially research into extrasensory perception). Which would make sense given her studies, and history.
or
A sai, the name of which is pronounced the same way. Which links her to the ninja turtle Raphael, which is more awesome..

 

[Darko]

Hey Zoat did Hades get those visitation rights from the angels so that souls in his afterlife can visit and meet with souls in Heaven?

Aside from that what else did he demand from them, like did he demand his priestesses be healed of the burns they inflicted on her when she tried to speak to the souls of Heaven?

 

[Fellow]

Did you just molest Luna?