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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Darko said:
Hey Zoat did Hades get those visitation rights from the angels so that souls in his afterlife can visit and meet with souls in Heaven?
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No.
Aside from that what else did he demand from them, like did he demand his priestesses be healed of the burns they inflicted on her when she tried to speak to the souls of Heaven?
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No. Those injuries have long since healed.
 
Darko said:
Really then what did he get from them if not the visitation rights?
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Effective elimination of their 'default service provider' status and an allowance for contact by his priesthood. Probably some other things that also aren't important to the story.
I thought that she told Paul she still had those injuries because they were making some kind of point to her to stop trying to contact their souls.
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I really don't remember.
 
By elimination of default service provider do you mean that souls that would have gone to Heaven or Hell, even if they worshiped other gods, but not that much, like the souls in Limbo, are now going to go to the afterlives of the gods they worshiped even if it was not that much, because that's what I'm guessing?
 
Darko said:
By elimination of default service provider do you mean that souls that would have gone to Heaven or Hell, even if they worshiped other gods, but not that much, like the souls in Limbo, are now going to go to the afterlives of the gods they worshiped even if it was not that much, because that's what I'm guessing?
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No, it's agnostics and others with no strong opinion who now aren't automatically shifted into the monotheistic structure.
 
Mr Zoat said:
No, it's agnostics and others with no strong opinion who now aren't automatically shifted into the monotheistic structure.
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Oh. Good. I was a little worried there. I've numerous atheist and agnostic friends and I'd much rather see them in the Elysium Fields than them having to suffer hell.
 
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No, it's agnostics and others with no strong opinion who now aren't automatically shifted into the monotheistic structure.
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So if they don't worship for example the Hellenistic gods, but were still somehow inspired by them, either by reading stories about them or something similar, then they would go to Erebus, instead Heaven or Hell?
 
Darko said:
So if they don't worship for example the Hellenistic gods, but were still somehow inspired by them, either by reading stories about them or something similar, then they would go to Erebus, instead Heaven or Hell.
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They might. Or to a different afterlife entirely. Plus, it allows innovative afterlife service providers like the Japanese pantheon to expand their market.
 
Mr Zoat said:
They might. Or to a different afterlife entirely. Plus, it allows innovative afterlife service providers like the Japanese pantheon to expand their market.
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The Japanese afterlife may not be all that nice if they're using the methods they used in Lucifer.

Leaving people that haven't accomplished anything too good or too evil in small rooms while depriving them of their senses isn't exactly something most people would want, unless their masochists of course.
 
Darko said:
The Japanese afterlife may not be all that nice if they're using the methods they used in Lucifer.

Leaving people that haven't accomplished anything too good or too evil in small rooms while depriving them of their senses isn't exactly something most people would want, unless their masochists of course.
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I never said that their product was any good.
 
Mr Zoat said:
They might. Or to a different afterlife entirely. Plus, it allows innovative afterlife service providers like the Japanese pantheon to expand their market.
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So, would the Home For Infinite Losers be a suitable such provider? :)

Some might like blue ogres (oni), and the odd martial artist dropping in from above...
 
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They might. Or to a different afterlife entirely. Plus, it allows innovative afterlife service providers like the Japanese pantheon to expand their market.
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Speaking of innovative providers, is Mormon heaven a thing in the DCverse / Zoatverse? Cuz that seems like a good way to munchkin your way to superior powers.
 
Zig said:
Speaking of innovative providers, is Mormon heaven a thing in the DCverse / Zoatverse? Cuz that seems like a good way to munchkin your way to superior powers.
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What if your religion is Science Fiction, and your heaven is the Omega Point? :)

(Yes, both of the links cover similar stuff, but, the perspective is different. And, maybe you want the book titles? :) )

If you've got the right religion, can you be reincarnated as a robot?

(Dalai Lama on the subject.)
 
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Ace Dreamer said:
What if your religion is Science Fiction, and your heaven is the Omega Point? :)

(Yes, both of the links cover similar stuff, but, the perspective is different. And, maybe you want the book titles? :) )

If you've got the right religion, can you be reincarnated as a robot?

(Dalai Lama on the subject.)
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Makes me wonder if people who are members of the Jedi religion get absorbed into the Green or Red when they die.
 
Duplication (supplementary, Renegade option)
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    Luna and I cautiously trot forwards towards the broken edge of the… Room, I suppose.

    "I.. have my issues with Celestia's teaching style, but to the best of your knowledge-?"

    "Be assured that Our Sister is not in the habit of hurling her students from buildings."

    We both look down to where Sunset appears to have survived her crash landing and is now sprinting across the courtyard garden for cover as skull-sized rocks get pelted at her.

    "You alright, Sunset!?"

    "Yes!"

    "Because we're getting slightly worried up here!"

    "Short version?!" I just about manage a wing-shrug. "Equestria does have a native earth pony magic tradition!"

    "Um! Good?!"

    "I know! Ah!"

    A boulder the size of a car slams into the ground just in front of her, forcing her to throw herself to the side to avoid running into it. She trips, rolls, then climbs back onto her hooves again just ahead of the next rock.

    "It's going to save so much time!"

    I turn my head to Luna, who appears to be staring at the scene with the same bewilderment I feel.

    "Luna, is this some sort of.. pony thing I don't know about?"

    "If it is, then there are two of us who do not know about it. Our Sister's student! Wherefore art thou not using thine unicorn magic?!"

    "Did you know that benitoite can stop unicorns using magic?!"

    "Neigh, we did not!"

    The rain of rock stops and Sunset braces for a novel form of attack.

    I smile. Good girl.

    "Well it can and it works really well!"

    "Daddy, should I stop them?"

    I look further down to where Lynne is standing next to my right foreleg and looking up at me, a faint orange glow around her horn.

    "No, Sunset appears to be enjoying-" I glance down at the garden as a circle around Sunset becomes liquefacted, causing her to drop into the ground and frantically try to 'swim' to the edge. "-herself. Ponies aren't good swimmers, are they?"

    Luna looks away from the garden in order to throw me a quizzical glance.

    "And apes are?"

    I nod. "Hominids are. Humans can swim straight from the womb."

    "That must be a strange sight."

    "Compared to a pony trying to swim through earth?"

    Sunset reaches the edge and gets her forehooves on solid ground, only for the rest of the soil to become solid as well. Sunset's eyes widen as she's caught halfway.

    "Daddy, can babies really swim?"

    "Yes, but not very well." Sunset wiggles, trying to use her alicorn strength to force the soil to release her. The soil covering the front part of her torso falls free easily enough but she can't get the leverage to pull herself out of the hole. "They tend to float and they hold their breath, but they can't do more than doggy paddle and they're not very strong."

    The earth on the far side of the courtyard erupts, rock pillars shooting upward to form a series of steps from the roof to the garden as a small grey mare in a dull blue dress calmly jumps from one to the next like a mountain goat funeral director.

    "Sunset."

    Her voice sounds curiously disinterested, as if fights on the palace grounds are something she gets into every day.

    "You know you can get out with magic."

    "Yeah… But when I said I like hooves-on-" She strains against her earthy prison. "-research, I still meant a training area, not just -uhh- 'throwing down' in the palace."

    The grey pony reaches ground level and lightly stomps her forehooves, causing the rock pillars to sink back into the ground. Dread to think what the subsidence is going to be like in a few years…

    The grey pony then stops and stamps her back right leg. The ground around Sunset slowly rises up in a wave of earth.

    "Um. Um. Um."

    Sunset takes a deep breath and lets the wave collapse on top of her. I don my goggles so that I can make sure that her life isn't in danger, but… I don't want to intervene yet. And not just because she brought this on herself. Given the day she had yesterday, I'd probably give her a bye on that one. No, it's because I can tell the difference between outright panic and a momentary burst of fear. Sunset was worried about the soil, but she didn't genuinely believe that she might die. So that-.

    Soil explodes in all directions, though I note that anything that hit the grey mare dropped to the ground immediately, rather than sticking to her fur or clothing. Sunset stands unsteadily in the centre of a gardener-horrifying crater. She's still pretty muddy, but-. Oh, that was lacertomancy. She removed the soil with a super strength flex, rather than geomancy. Still a one-in-four improvement on her earth pony magic skills since yesterday, but probably not what she was trying for.

    "It worked!" She looks up at us. "Did you see that!?"

    "Yes! Very nice!" I frown. "Luna, have you got any idea who the grey mare is?"

    "No, though We think that We may need to make her acquaintance once this bizarre display has been concluded, both to learn from her expertise and to sentence her for vandalism."

    "Daddy, can we learn to do that?"

    "Pro-bably, but you'd only be able to do it in pony form." I glance down at her. "And if you're interested in magical strength-training, I can show you how to do that."

    "Okay."

    Sunset clears the edge of the crater by awkwardly flapping her dirt-encrusted wings and doing a trot-landing on what's left of the grass.

    "That wasn't rock magic."

    A spear of rock shoots out of the ground and Sunset has to jerk her head to the side to avoid being speared!

    "You should try listening to the rocks. They say all kinds of interesting things."

    "Ah…" Sunset leans towards the spear. "Hello.. rock..?

    Another spear comes at her from her left, and she drops onto her belly to fully evade it!

    "Ah! Bad rock!"

    "Hey, Luna." I frown as Sunset keeps trying to 'talk' to the rock and the grey mare keeps firing spears at her. "Can you control rocks?"

    "We cannot. And… Having seen this tomfoolery, We think that We will wait to learn until Sunset Shimmer can instruct Us in a more decorous fashion."
     
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