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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I can't fly, but I didn't see them walking.
I think this should be 'but, didn't I see them walking?', otherwise I don't think it makes sense.


A secondary character PoV, in fact a character that didn't exist before two episodes ago...

Interesting character development. A touch of empathy...

A greenhouse of violet flowers... For some reason this made me think of the 'Black Mercy' flower from Krypton, but, that's weird enough I don't think Clayface 2.1 would mistake those for normal flowers. Or, if it's a Guardians reference, then memory of a lost love (violet being the colour of love)? One of those wait-and-see bits, I guess...

I can imagine Krona trying to figure-out why his Tuning Fork of Doom isn't working right, because he hasn't yet worked-out one of his abductees isn't like all the others...
 
I think this should be 'but, didn't I see them walking?', otherwise I don't think it makes sense.


A secondary character PoV, in fact a character that didn't exist before two episodes ago...

Interesting character development. A touch of empathy...

A greenhouse of violet flowers... For some reason this made me think of the 'Black Mercy' flower from Krypton, but, that's weird enough I don't think Clayface 2.1 would mistake those for normal flowers. Or, if it's a Guardians reference, then memory of a lost love (violet being the colour of love)? One of those wait-and-see bits, I guess...

I can imagine Krona trying to figure-out why his Tuning Fork of Doom isn't working right, because he hasn't yet worked-out one of his abductees isn't like all the others...

The only person I remember loving Krona in the comics would have to be Atrocitus.

Yeah in the n52 Red Lantern comics he called him something akin to a lover in some of the first issues.

Loved the comic, but yeah that was honestly a weird thing to say and kinda funny too.
 
Duplication (part 14)
17th May 2011
03:01 GMT


The red sky ripples and the Manhunters begin to appear.

I erect a dome barrier over Black, and two of the Gold Lanterns do the same with Black Queen. Fortunately, it-

A dozen varieties of energy beam flare upward from the assembled Justice League members, heat vision from the kryptonians, fire, ice, plasma, gravitons and acid from League members I half-recognise, all combined with missile and heavy gun constructs from the Gold Lanterns. The first wave of Manhunters are heavily armoured and armed with some sort of staff and as the first part of the torrent hits home the robots who attracted their attention evaporate.

No energy shield, no return fire-.

"Lantern Rathbone, focus on your sector and trust everyone else to focus on theirs."

Ah, I see. Some Manhunters took more than their share of fire, while others were almost unmolested.

"Yes, Commander!"

More shimmers and this time the Manhunters have their staves levelled, green bolts erupting from the tip and slamming into the League's positions! Gold Lanterns raise shields to block while the fireteams open up on them. Again, the Manhunters have no shields and their armour is massively inadequate to the task.

"…helps a little with fear…"

Black's third sigil springs into being, a dull yellow which contrasts quite strongly with the brighter light being employed by the Gold Lanterns-.

Another wave of Manhunters, larger than the previous two. Rather than spreading out, they form clusters protecting… Slightly larger Manhunters whose armour is partly opened-.

"They're deploying Highmasters. Lanterns, focus on their bodyguard."

Most Lanterns didn't need the reminder, construct attacks hammering through the bodyguard units but shutting down before hitting the 'Highmasters'. The Manhunters of the new model intentionally fly towards the heaviest focus of construct activity, gold wisps rising from the constructs in the brief window before the Lanterns creating it dismiss them.

The green sigil flares into being next to Black Lantern as the Highmasters charge for the ground! One is intercepted by Superman, golden light shimmering around its body as it tries to soak up his attacks. Predictably that doesn't work, his first trial-tap fracturing the construct shield while the Manhunter's construct beam doesn't so much as muss his quiff. Superman's second strike is a series of blurs, the Manhunter's armour fracturing and failing from its vulnerable points. The robot… Collapses into bits and tumbles to the ground.

"Hope done. Um."

Commander Gordon doesn't look around, keeping her attention on the growing area of red sky.

"What?"

"Love is next, and I'm…"

Ah. Yes.

"None of us were particularly amorous, and then he became a clinically depressed vampire."

"Can you do it?"

"P.. ro.. bably, but not quickly."

Another wave of Manhunters, these ones looking a little more sophisticated than the initial combat variety. They dart towards their preselected targets the moment they appear, strong-looking shields shimmering around their bodies as they take hits.

Still none focusing on the giant tuning fork.

"…built this!?"

The fellow in the green, black and white tried to reach Commander Gordon but was intercepted by her escort. He looks decidedly unhappy about the whole situation, and… I've got no idea who he is.

"Because we don't have any other way to stop him, and you always said that you couldn't control where you teleported."

"I can't, but I wouldn't be here if the cure wasn't worse than the disease!"

"Provide me with actionable intelligence or get out of my way."

"I'm just going to skip to compassion!"

Which is-. Would be a little frustrating, given that I could probably do that one but definitely could-.

"Commander, personal question: you and Mister Grayson..?"

Her head jerks around. "What?"

"I can use the emotions of those around me to weakly use other colours. Neither I nor Black have a significant amount of romantic experience, but…"

"Dick and I are… Fine."

"Ah-."

Her bodyguard looks at me. "My husband and I have been together eight years. Would that work?"

"Eight happy years?"

"Ah, y'know, mostly? It's not like we never disagree about anything…"

"That should do." I look at Commander Gordon. "Would you mind if I borrowed her?"

"Yes, do it."

I open a hole in my shield to allow her through.

"Red, can you take over shielding dut-"

Three plasma bolts strike my shield, causing momentary cracks in the dome before it bleeds off their energy.

"-y?"

I think that was.. just a spray rather than a deliberate targeting, but the fighting above us hasn't stopped just because we needed a quick chat.

Red nods, a red dome appearing above mine. I wait until it envelops the top of the tine completely, then drop my own and focus my attention on the Gold Lantern volunteer.

"I need you to focus your mind on the most intimate memories you have of your husband." She looks askance-. "Emotionally intimate, the thoughts and feelings that tie the two of you most closely together. Not just the good; times when you've supported each other in hardship or otherwise helped one another work just as well."

She takes a couple of breaths and then nods. "Okay, gimme a sec."

"Black, we'll handle love."

"Ah?" He glances at Commander Gordon for a moment, then nods. "Okay, thanks."

My Gold Lantern assistant isn't really looking at anything, presumably trying to call the required memories and emotional sensation to mind. I shut down my constructs and… Target her with my stave's alternate mode. This isn't usually a good or efficient way to use it, but if all I need is a dribble of power anyway

A weak strobe of violet light shimmers out to one of the two remaining capacitors, while black fills the other.

I smile at my assistant.

"Thank you. You should probably take a moment to-."

She flies upward, Red getting his shield out of the way just in time.

"Or not." I look over at Black Queen, who is standing in the middle of her tine with her arms folded across her chest, her capacitors already filled. "Ready!"
 
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Yeah, that was always an annoying thing about DC. In one comic series Dick and Babs will be loving, monogamous, and amorous, in another series, also post crisis new earth, set in the same time, Dick will be sleeping with someone else, everyone else, and Babs will be with the private detective guy whatshisface. Holy run on sentence Batman!

And there wasn't any editorial reason for it, just the writer of that arc in another series wanted Dick to be dicking someone else.
 
Yeah, that was always an annoying thing about DC. In one comic series Dick and Babs will be loving, monogamous, and amorous, in another series, also post crisis new earth, set in the same time, Dick will be sleeping with someone else, everyone else, and Babs will be with the private detective guy whatshisface. Holy run on sentence Batman!

And there wasn't any editorial reason for it, just the writer of that arc in another series wanted Dick to be dicking someone else.
Welcome to comic books, new writers always want to do away with things the old one's did so they can tell their own stories.
 
17th May 2011
03:01 GMT


The red sky ripples and the Manhunters begin to appear.
Let the rollercoaster ride begin! A pity all the face-punching action will be background noise for the important stuff...

I erect a dome barrier over Black, and two of the Gold Lanterns do the same with Black Queen. Fortunately, it-

A dozen varieties of energy beam flare upward from the assembled Justice League members, heat vision from the kryptonians, fire, ice, plasma, gravitons and acid from League members I half-recognise, all combined with missile and heavy gun constructs from the Gold Lanterns. The first wave of Manhunters are heavily armoured and armed with some sort of staff and as the first part of the torrent hits home the robots who attracted their attention evaporate.
Ooof. Goes to show just how big a mess the superhuman community can make if they put their mind to it.

No energy shield, no return fire-.

"Lantern Rathbone, focus on your sector and trust everyone else to focus on theirs."

Ah, I see. Some Manhunters took more than their share of fire, while others were almost unmolested.
Because of course some rookie got distracted... Thankfully the Manhunters weren't primed to take advantage of it.

"Yes, Commander!"

More shimmers and this time the Manhunters have their staves levelled, green bolts erupting from the tip and slamming into League's positions! Gold Lanterns raise shields to block while the fireteams open up on them. Again, the Manhunters have no shields and their armour is massively inadequate to the task.
These ones must be built for intimidation factor. They're definitely not for combat...

"…helps a little with fear…"

Black's third sigil springs into being, a dull yellow which contrasts quite strongly with the brighter light being employed by the Gold Lanterns-.
Heh. I'm not surprised things aren't a little worrying. And thanks to another lantern fic, I always associate Gold with Pride... These guys are so much better though.

Another wave of Manhunters, larger than the previous two. Rather than spreading out, they form clusters protecting… Slightly larger Manhunters whose armour is partly opened-.

"They're deploying Highmasters. Lanterns, focus on their bodyguard."
Huh, info from the Guardians files? Bet these ones are built to drain...

Most Lanterns didn't need the reminder, construct attacks hammering through the bodyguard units but shutting down before hitting the 'Highmasters'. The Manhunters of the new model intentionally fly towards the heaviest focus of construct activity, gold wisps rising from the constructs in the brief window before the Lanterns creating it dismiss them.
...Spectrum energy. Yup. Perfect counter for any foe using it, but that's not all they have.

The green sigil flare into being next to Black Lantern as the Highmasters charge for the ground! One is intercepted by Superman, golden light shimmering around its body as it tries to soak up his attacks. Predictably that doesn't work, his first trial-tap fracturing the construct shield while the Manhunter's construct beam doesn't so much as muss his quiff. Superman's second strike is a series of blurs, the Manhunter's armour fracturing and failing from its vulnerable points. The robot… Collapses into bits and tumbles to the ground.
Yeah, not going to stand up to Superman at this point, he's pretty close to his 'pull the moon with giant chains' level during this era.

"Hope done. Um."

Commander Gordan doesn't look around, keeping her attention on the growing area of red sky.
Oh, don't tell me, performance issues, Zaul?

"What?"

"Love is next, and I'm…"
Welp, universe is screwed... OL could have managed this part, with the Sapphire ring...

Ah. Yes.

"None of us were particularly amorous, and then he became a clinically depressed vampire."
Not really conducive to any kind of emotional connection, especially on the 'positive' side of the spectrum.

"Can you do it?"

"P.. ro.. bably, but not quickly."
Much harder than Compassion, after all. Especially in his deep-dipped state.

Another wave of Manhunters, these ones looking a little more sophisticated than the initial combat variety. They dart towards their preselected targets the moment they appear, strong-looking shields shimmering around their bodies as they take hits.

Still none focusing on the giant tuning fork.
Let's hope they don't take notice... Kind of critical to all this.

"…built this!?"

The fellow in the green, black and white tried to reach Commander Gordon but was intercepted by her escort. He looks decidedly unhappy about the whole situation, and… I've got no idea who he is.
Ah, been a while since he's read Crisis on Infinite Earth, huh? Understandable, Pariah isn't exactly important in it either.

"Because we don't have any other way to stop him, and you always said that you couldn't control where you teleported."

"I can't, but I wouldn't be here if the cure wasn't worse than the disease!"
Hence his little "Oh, not again..." earlier.

"Provide me with actionable intelligence or get out of my way."

"I'm just going to skip to compassion!"
Equally tough given his state. This could be troublesome...

Which is-. Would be a little frustrating, given that I could probably do that one but definitely could-.

"Commander, personal question: you and Mister Grayson..?"
Ooh, good idea.

Her head jerks around. "What?"

"I can use the emotions of those around me to weakly use other colours. Neither I nor Black have a significant amount of romantic experience, but…"
Now, I doubt she's had much time for dating while running a Lantern Corps...

"Dick and I are… Fine."

"Ah-."
Welp. Sounds like they're off.

Her bodyguard looks at me. "My husband and I have been together eight years. Would that work?"

"Eight happy years?"

"Ah, y'know, mostly? It's not like we never disagree about anything…"
Hey, making up is the best part, though.

"That should do." I look at Commander Gordon. "Would you mind if I borrowed her?"

"Yes, do it."

I open a hole in my shield to allow her through.
Risky. All it takes is one Manhunter noticing...

"Red, can you take over shielding dut-"

Three plasma bolts strike my shield, causing momentary cracks in the dome before it bleeds off their energy.

"-y?"
See? Gotta keep your head on a swivel, Saul.

I think that was.. just a spray rather than a deliberate targeting, but the fighting above us hasn't stopped just because we needed a quick chat.

Red nods, a red dome appearing above mine. I wait until it envelopes the top of the tine completely, then drop my own and focus my attention on the Gold Lantern volunteer.
Now, the tricky part... Borrowing someone else's emotions...

"I need you to focus your mind on the most intimate memories you have of you husband." She looks askance-. "Emotionally intimate, the thoughts and feelings that tie the two of you most closely together. Not just the good; times when you've supported each other in hardship or otherwise helped one another work just as well."

She takes a couple of breaths and then nods. "Okay, gimme a sec."
Should work for their purposes too, given it's still a Paul doing the charging.

"Black, we'll handle love."

"Ah?" He glances at Commander Gordon for a moment, then nods. "Okay, thanks."
Hope might be easier for him, given the improvement to his situation in recent days.

My Gold Lantern assistant isn't really looking at anything, presumably trying to call the required memories and emotional sensation to mind. I shut down my constructs and… Target her with my stave's alternate mode. This isn't usually a good or efficient way to use it, but if all I need is a dribble of power anyway

A weak strobe of violet light shimmers out to one of the two remaining capacitors, while black fills the other.
Two more charged. Let's hope they can keep it up.

I smile at my assistant.

"Thank you. You should probably take a moment to-."
"As if! There's still a fight going on!"

She flies upward, Red getting his shield out of the way just in time.

"Or not." I look over at Black Queen, who is standing in the middle of her tine with her arms folded across her chest, her capacitors already filled. "Ready!"
Just waiting on the go signal. And then the trippy part begins.

And the stakes are rising. Krona knows they're doing something to stop him. How long before he takes personal care of matters, I wonder...

...and slamming into League's positions!
...and slamming into the League's positions!
Commander Gordan doesn't look around...
Commander Gordon doesn't look around...
 
Yeah, that was always an annoying thing about DC. In one comic series Dick and Babs will be loving, monogamous, and amorous, in another series, also post crisis new earth, set in the same time, Dick will be sleeping with someone else, everyone else, and Babs will be with the private detective guy whatshisface. Holy run on sentence Batman!

And there wasn't any editorial reason for it, just the writer of that arc in another series wanted Dick to be dicking someone else.

Remember their mentor figure is Batman.

Batman is many things but monogamous is not one of them.
 
Yeah, that was always an annoying thing about DC. In one comic series Dick and Babs will be loving, monogamous, and amorous, in another series, also post crisis new earth, set in the same time, Dick will be sleeping with someone else, everyone else, and Babs will be with the private detective guy whatshisface. Holy run on sentence Batman!

And there wasn't any editorial reason for it, just the writer of that arc in another series wanted Dick to be dicking someone else.

Every new comic team writes fanfiction.

I honestly expected for a moment for Indigo to offer his heart for harvest. Glad I was wrong.
 
Yeah, that was always an annoying thing about DC. In one comic series Dick and Babs will be loving, monogamous, and amorous, in another series, also post crisis new earth, set in the same time, Dick will be sleeping with someone else, everyone else, and Babs will be with the private detective guy whatshisface. Holy run on sentence Batman!

Agreed, though I ship DickKori rather than DickBabs.
 
Agreed, though I ship DickKori rather than DickBabs.
Welcome to the club, we have membership badges and fanart.

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So is perfectly okay for Batman to date wonder woman one day then have sex with catwoman the next day?
The more appropriate analogy would be Batman marrying Wonder Woman for a few years, breaking up and then marrying Catwomen, which would count as serial monogamy I'm pretty sure. Your example would not count though. Although this is all a metaphor for Batmans apprentice/sidekick relationships (unless I'm horribly misreading the conversation), so I can't really say whether he's canonically a serial monogamist or not with my pitiful comic book knowledge.

Edit: Going by Zoat's response, I did indeed horribly misread the conversation (I had no idea Batman actually had romantic relationships). Ignore me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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So is perfectly okay for Batman to date wonder woman one day then have sex with catwoman the next day?
I'm not making any kind of moral judgement here, I'm just saying that unless he's repeatedly dating both during the same time period that fact that the delay between the end of one relationship and the begining of a new one isn't very long doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't being monogomous.
 

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