Maladaptive (part 8)
Mr Zoat
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22nd July 2012
17:52 GMT
I stroll into the garage, the owner just giving me a glance and then ignoring me.
"Good evening, Seth."
"Paul." The car has had its wheels removed, and parts of the panelling have been removed to grant easier access to the mechanisms I think of as the 'worky bits'. Vulcan's legs are sticking out of the door, while his head and shoulders remain firmly within. "Not sure I've got much for you yet."
I nod.
"Do you think it's worth bringing your brother in?"
"He might have something useful to say, but I've got to be honest here: something like this… Hm."
I look around, and while Mr. Zencha isn't paying us a lot of attention, he isn't deaf. I take a noise cancelling field generator out of subspace and activate it.
"Good idea." Vulcan shuffles himself out a little, coming upright with his feet hanging out of the car door. "I'm not an expert on this sort of primal…" He spots Earl Dukeston and regards him curiously. "Magic."
"Not a natural event?"
"Not natural and I'm almost certain that it wasn't directed. Not by a magician, anyway. Who is this?"
"Oh, I'm.. sorry. Vulcan, this is Earl Dukeston the Second. He's an AI with a highly adaptive robotic body whose mind is based on the mind of his predecessor, Earl Dukeston the First."
Earl raises his right hand in greeting.
"Howdy, Vulcan."
"Welcome kindly, Mister Dukeston."
"But it could be a god?"
"A god, a titan, or something… Different. I read something a while ago about the possibility of human technology developing its own intelligence-."
I shake my head. "If you're talking about some sort of emergent noosphere entity, that only applies to electromagnetic energy. We might make our own Kilg%re, but this car still wouldn't be vulnerable to it. And neither would isolated robots with no external control system. And… And frankly, I'm sceptical as to whether it's possible at all, other than in the normal ways an artificial intelligence could be created."
"One ah you fellahs wanna fill a guy in?"
"The term 'noosphere' refers to the sum total of telecommunications in a given area. Since the contents of communications impact one another, in… Very theoretically, a conscious mind could emerge from one once a civilisation reaches a certain point."
"The internet could start thinking?"
"One unusually intelligent indexing program is all it would take. In theory."
"Boy howdy! Glad I said 'no' to that upgrade. I don't even wanna imagine what kinda twisted mind would crawl outta that place."
"It probably wouldn't be that bad. It wouldn't have any reason to assign the same value to the information that we do. But-. As I said, it's unlikely that's what we're looking for. If it's a god, is it..? New?"
"I looked through the list you sent me. It feels random, but that's just a feeling and not a god-given domain-related intuition. If someone was getting a feeling for their new powers, I can't see why they'd do it like this. And given how powerful the god would have become, there'd be wizards with blood pouring out of their eyes all over the place from the power backlash."
"A new god? How would that work?"
"If Heph got Athena pregnant, their domains are close enough that their offspring could become the God of Technology. Maybe." He smiles saucily. "But if something like that was happening, I'm pretty sure we'd have heard about it."
"Are there any other gods in a position to try something like that? I imagine that there are a few chief gods who'd be prepared to lose their seats if it meant their pantheon coming to that level of prominence."
"The only gods who actually plan things like that are the Shinto gods. But they've been working from the bottom up. A god of all technology?" He shakes his head. "Where would they find one?"
"Don't they have gods of related concepts they could persuade to have a child together?"
"It isn't impossible, but that hasn't been the direction they've been moving in." He shakes his head. "You'd have to ask one of them. I'm not close with any of them."
"I'll add it to the slate. What are the other alternatives?"
"A new god born directly from the Dream. Perhaps an entire pantheon. I'm too young to have ever seen it happening before, so I can't describe what it looked like last time."
"Did any of the older members of your pantheon ever talk about it?"
"Of their own births? Their first awkward, foundering steps into the magic realms of the Earth?" He looks amused by the idea. "No, never. You could try asking Hades if you want to compare the two, but Earth was a very different place back then."
"What would a god want?"
"Worshippers, a cult, recognition, and a reasonable reassurance that it's going to keep getting those things in the future. Assuming that it's a single god. With a whole pantheon it could be anything." He makes an amused exhalation. "Though I don't imagine they're going to want someone like me sticking around."
Hm. If I remember my Warhammer 40,000 correctly…
"What happens in the run up to a god being born? Or… However it works?"
"If they're born as the child of an existing god, not a lot. If they emerge directly from the Dream…" He shakes his head. "I don't know. I've never seen it, and I don't understand the magic involved well enough to work it out. What we're seeing might fit, but I can't swear to it."
"And if it was a titan?"
His gaze grows a little distant. "Once, when he was really drunk, Jupiter talked about what that was like. Mortals and gods alike being driven insane by the ideas forced into their sleeping minds. The whole of the world's magic being thrown off balance until it finds a new equilibrium." His attention returns to me. "That's one of the reasons why they didn't kill the titans who survived the war; they're literally propping up what's left. I'd… Guess, that if a new titan was emerging from the depth of the Dream -a Titan of Technology- it would be similar to how it would be for a god, only far more severe. The nature of magic on Earth would change."
I nod.
"That's easier to check. I'll just need to ask magicians if their abilities have been off recently."
He nods back. "I'd like to think that we'd notice in advance. But maybe this is us noticing."
Okay, so talk to Hades, talk to… The Tower of Fate has a window onto the Dream. So John's probably the best person to ask about that aspect of things.
"On an unrelated note, Mister Dukeston has a problem."
He nods. "Apparently, ah'm a soulless bag of bolts and you're the fellah who can fix that."
Vulcan shrugs. "I could build something…" He frowns. "If a god's awakening..." His frown deepens as he studies Mr. Dukeston. "I could build something that would draw magic from the world around you. I've studied Paul enough that I could create something like the network he has. But if a God of Machines is waking up… I might be able to use that magic to create something… More you."
"I gotta decide right away?"
"No. This business is more important, perhaps for the whole world." He shakes his head. "I can't even be certain what your choice would mean for you."
"Then this seems like something ah should really sleep on."
"As you will."
"Thank you, Vulcan. You've been very helpful. I'll keep you up to date on what I discover."
"And I, you. Thank you for bringing this to me. It's been a while since I've… Engaged with the world like this."
17:52 GMT
I stroll into the garage, the owner just giving me a glance and then ignoring me.
"Good evening, Seth."
"Paul." The car has had its wheels removed, and parts of the panelling have been removed to grant easier access to the mechanisms I think of as the 'worky bits'. Vulcan's legs are sticking out of the door, while his head and shoulders remain firmly within. "Not sure I've got much for you yet."
I nod.
"Do you think it's worth bringing your brother in?"
"He might have something useful to say, but I've got to be honest here: something like this… Hm."
I look around, and while Mr. Zencha isn't paying us a lot of attention, he isn't deaf. I take a noise cancelling field generator out of subspace and activate it.
"Good idea." Vulcan shuffles himself out a little, coming upright with his feet hanging out of the car door. "I'm not an expert on this sort of primal…" He spots Earl Dukeston and regards him curiously. "Magic."
"Not a natural event?"
"Not natural and I'm almost certain that it wasn't directed. Not by a magician, anyway. Who is this?"
"Oh, I'm.. sorry. Vulcan, this is Earl Dukeston the Second. He's an AI with a highly adaptive robotic body whose mind is based on the mind of his predecessor, Earl Dukeston the First."
Earl raises his right hand in greeting.
"Howdy, Vulcan."
"Welcome kindly, Mister Dukeston."
"But it could be a god?"
"A god, a titan, or something… Different. I read something a while ago about the possibility of human technology developing its own intelligence-."
I shake my head. "If you're talking about some sort of emergent noosphere entity, that only applies to electromagnetic energy. We might make our own Kilg%re, but this car still wouldn't be vulnerable to it. And neither would isolated robots with no external control system. And… And frankly, I'm sceptical as to whether it's possible at all, other than in the normal ways an artificial intelligence could be created."
"One ah you fellahs wanna fill a guy in?"
"The term 'noosphere' refers to the sum total of telecommunications in a given area. Since the contents of communications impact one another, in… Very theoretically, a conscious mind could emerge from one once a civilisation reaches a certain point."
"The internet could start thinking?"
"One unusually intelligent indexing program is all it would take. In theory."
"Boy howdy! Glad I said 'no' to that upgrade. I don't even wanna imagine what kinda twisted mind would crawl outta that place."
"It probably wouldn't be that bad. It wouldn't have any reason to assign the same value to the information that we do. But-. As I said, it's unlikely that's what we're looking for. If it's a god, is it..? New?"
"I looked through the list you sent me. It feels random, but that's just a feeling and not a god-given domain-related intuition. If someone was getting a feeling for their new powers, I can't see why they'd do it like this. And given how powerful the god would have become, there'd be wizards with blood pouring out of their eyes all over the place from the power backlash."
"A new god? How would that work?"
"If Heph got Athena pregnant, their domains are close enough that their offspring could become the God of Technology. Maybe." He smiles saucily. "But if something like that was happening, I'm pretty sure we'd have heard about it."
"Are there any other gods in a position to try something like that? I imagine that there are a few chief gods who'd be prepared to lose their seats if it meant their pantheon coming to that level of prominence."
"The only gods who actually plan things like that are the Shinto gods. But they've been working from the bottom up. A god of all technology?" He shakes his head. "Where would they find one?"
"Don't they have gods of related concepts they could persuade to have a child together?"
"It isn't impossible, but that hasn't been the direction they've been moving in." He shakes his head. "You'd have to ask one of them. I'm not close with any of them."
"I'll add it to the slate. What are the other alternatives?"
"A new god born directly from the Dream. Perhaps an entire pantheon. I'm too young to have ever seen it happening before, so I can't describe what it looked like last time."
"Did any of the older members of your pantheon ever talk about it?"
"Of their own births? Their first awkward, foundering steps into the magic realms of the Earth?" He looks amused by the idea. "No, never. You could try asking Hades if you want to compare the two, but Earth was a very different place back then."
"What would a god want?"
"Worshippers, a cult, recognition, and a reasonable reassurance that it's going to keep getting those things in the future. Assuming that it's a single god. With a whole pantheon it could be anything." He makes an amused exhalation. "Though I don't imagine they're going to want someone like me sticking around."
Hm. If I remember my Warhammer 40,000 correctly…
"What happens in the run up to a god being born? Or… However it works?"
"If they're born as the child of an existing god, not a lot. If they emerge directly from the Dream…" He shakes his head. "I don't know. I've never seen it, and I don't understand the magic involved well enough to work it out. What we're seeing might fit, but I can't swear to it."
"And if it was a titan?"
His gaze grows a little distant. "Once, when he was really drunk, Jupiter talked about what that was like. Mortals and gods alike being driven insane by the ideas forced into their sleeping minds. The whole of the world's magic being thrown off balance until it finds a new equilibrium." His attention returns to me. "That's one of the reasons why they didn't kill the titans who survived the war; they're literally propping up what's left. I'd… Guess, that if a new titan was emerging from the depth of the Dream -a Titan of Technology- it would be similar to how it would be for a god, only far more severe. The nature of magic on Earth would change."
I nod.
"That's easier to check. I'll just need to ask magicians if their abilities have been off recently."
He nods back. "I'd like to think that we'd notice in advance. But maybe this is us noticing."
Okay, so talk to Hades, talk to… The Tower of Fate has a window onto the Dream. So John's probably the best person to ask about that aspect of things.
"On an unrelated note, Mister Dukeston has a problem."
He nods. "Apparently, ah'm a soulless bag of bolts and you're the fellah who can fix that."
Vulcan shrugs. "I could build something…" He frowns. "If a god's awakening..." His frown deepens as he studies Mr. Dukeston. "I could build something that would draw magic from the world around you. I've studied Paul enough that I could create something like the network he has. But if a God of Machines is waking up… I might be able to use that magic to create something… More you."
"I gotta decide right away?"
"No. This business is more important, perhaps for the whole world." He shakes his head. "I can't even be certain what your choice would mean for you."
"Then this seems like something ah should really sleep on."
"As you will."
"Thank you, Vulcan. You've been very helpful. I'll keep you up to date on what I discover."
"And I, you. Thank you for bringing this to me. It's been a while since I've… Engaged with the world like this."
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