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Coronavirus COVID-19 Pandemic

OverMaster said:
If this keeps up for long, no one's going to want to apply for medical/nurse jobs anymore.
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My country(Brazil) already had a lack of people through the entire medical profession which was increasing over the years, then current government took many actions to make that worse and now COVID.

I am really concerned about the following decades as more and more people retire while less and less replace them.
 
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The first is easy. 11 projects. 1 project of the asshole who used glitter. 9 projects of the idiots who did not strangle him before he could open the glitter. 1 project of the poor janitor who has to clean up the mess.
 
After ~5 weeks of daily case numbers holding fairly steady, we have started catching up with the rest of the world in pandemic escalation here in Finland. Stupid us for getting into these fads.

Hospitalizations are also climbing, and I expect ICU use to follow with a small delay.
 
zup said:
After ~5 weeks of daily case numbers holding fairly steady, we have started catching up with the rest of the world in pandemic escalation here in Finland. Stupid us for getting into these fads.

Hospitalizations are also climbing, and I expect ICU use to follow with a small delay.
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Winter is coming.
 
As a bit of a note, COVID denialism is... persistent... in the sense that it's damn near impossible for reality to intercede and correct it, especially in severe cases.

I've been getting... stories... from a friend who's a nurse in Orlando of the problems she's been having from COVID denialists... in the ICU. Yes, people hospitalized with COVID, in the ICU, who refuse to believe that COVID is real.

These stories are hardly unique, but they're depressing as Hell.

Edit: My initial post described her as an ICU nurse. I corrected it a few seconds after posting as it's inaccurate -- she's not an ICU nurse per se, rather just a nurse who's been forced to help out in the ICU due to, well, COVID-related loads on the hospital.
 
Granted, when you already are in the ICU you kinda stop caring about WHAT put you there and you just want to concentrate on HOW you are getting out.

Which, since covid 19 has no known cure yet, is something that doesn't help people realizing they have it when they already caught it. One'd probably prefer believing it's something else with a known solution other than just 'cross your fingers and hope you get better rather than dying'. A purely emotional answer born from distress?
 
Aleh said:
As a bit of a note, COVID denialism is... persistent... in the sense that it's damn near impossible for reality to intercede and correct it, especially in severe cases.

I've been getting... stories... from a friend who's a nurse in Orlando of the problems she's been having from COVID denialists... in the ICU. Yes, people hospitalized with COVID, in the ICU, who refuse to believe that COVID is real.
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There are at least 2 plagues going on right now. COVID, of course, but also a plague of misinformation -- which isn't limited to misinformation about COVID, but that particular flavor of misinformation is the one that's killing people fastest right now.

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Well, down here in Melbourne we're at our twenty fourth consecutive day of no new cases of coronavirus and no deaths. Right now we have a grand total of one confirmed case, one! And as of today we're no longer required to wear a mask if outside! Of course, then I end up looking at how thing are in the rest of the world and think, thank fuck I live here.
 
Since I'm in a rural area where there are more elderly than the youngsters, also close to public cemetery, I end up seeing funeral of neighbors every biweekly. Kind of sad when you keep on seeing houses emptied out one after another, and familiar faces no longer appearing at the front yard of their houses in the morning.
 
Well as of recently though the video is much older, this YouTuber who a friend introduced me to has gone bonkers, and I used to watch infrequently but stopped because my essential job has mandatory overtime for the last few months to keep us out of the red.

Anyways to keep Rule 8 to a minimum he does technology and politics, I was mostly there for the former though he does make a few good points for the latter, at the time. However I've come to understand that people like him eventually make that one massive shocker where you get to see who they really are, and it's always ugly in my experience. Ironically I think he once said something about not abandoning someone just because they said one thing you didn't like, good advice but it doesn't apply here.

So with that in mind he became what he hated the most, a journalist, and has spent several months denying the virus to millions of viewers and promoting quack doctors spewing debunked theories getting god knows how many people killed. He claimed that surgical masks are muzzles to suppress free speech. And people still listen to him.

Doesn't stop there he needed to go in deep as he associates himself with white supremacists, not the types of people who get slandered as one I mean ones who actually self identify, at least one is in jail for assaulting people who wore masks.


Sorry if It's more of a rant but I'm angry for even knowing about him.
 
Rule 8 warning. Not only you should know better, but those guys absolutely have nothing to do with this thread. You just wanted to bash them.
Seth Vatamaris said:
Sorry if It's more of a rant but I'm angry for even knowing about him
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Happens to the best of us man. I feel ya. Pewdiepie is alt-right himself too. Alongside markiplier. And a whole host of other secretly nasty youtube celebrities.

Edit: I confess I decided to bash them like an asshole simply because I found out recently about their political leanings. I am genuinely sorry for once again trying to bring in unconnected political nonsense into a place that has no space for that. I am not asking for forgiveness but I am sorry.
 
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Whelp, got my taste of the coronavirus. Probably. I caught some bug off this old lady who I help with things she can't anymore, and she got tested positive... so, gotta get my testing for confirmation, but yeah. Seems pretty much a certainty at this point.

Have to admit, its was, eh, I'd say the second, maybe third, roughest flu I've ever been through, definitely the worst in my adult life. Took me about four and a half days to recover... which is actually quite a long time for me. I'm accustomed to getting over basically everything overnight.

Four days of constant headache, light muscle fatigue, some brief light fevers, and... actually getting a good night's sleep for once. That's right, coronavirus cured my insomnia. I'm assuming temporarily, but damn it'd be cool if it was permanent. But it seems like it's all behind me, and now all I've got left is a bit of a sore throat to recover from.


So, for my personal enjoyment, I rate it a solid "I've been through worse" out of "This is what I get for helping people."


Still nothing compared to that time I got strep throat. That shit was brutal.
 
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TanaNari said:
Whelp, got my taste of the coronavirus. Probably. I caught some bug off this old lady who I help with things she can't anymore, and she got tested positive... so, gotta get my testing for confirmation, but yeah. Seems pretty much a certainty at this point.

Have to admit, its was, eh, I'd say the second, maybe third, roughest flu I've ever been through, definitely the worst in my adult life. Took me about four and a half days to recover... which is actually quite a long time for me. I'm accustomed to getting over basically everything overnight.

Four days of constant headache, light muscle fatigue, some brief light fevers, and... actually getting a good night's sleep for once. That's right, coronavirus cured my insomnia. I'm assuming temporarily, but damn it'd be cool if it was permanent. But it seems like it's all behind me, and now all I've got left is a bit of a sore throat to recover from.


So, for my personal enjoyment, I rate it a solid "I've been through worse" out of "This is what I get for helping people."


Still nothing compared to that time I got strep throat. That shit was brutal.
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If you can you still might want to get a check up at some point. There have been some frightening after effects noted and it's better to be safe.
 
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Have to admit, its was, eh, I'd say the second, maybe third, roughest flu I've ever been through, definitely the worst in my adult life.
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First off, it's not a flu. I keep having to say that for some reason.

Secondly, if you were only sick for four days, there's a chance you're still sick and/or contagious. Things tend to come to a head about seven days after symptoms start; if you don't suddenly get worse then, well, you're probably actually better.
 
I mean, technically it IS a flu of sorts. One on gorilla steroids, cybernetic implants and magical armor, granted.

I've seen it compared to AIDS, which is a much worse benchmark.
 
To echo Aleh, no it's not a flu! Influenza is a completely different virus to COVID-19, they have different phylogeny and work significantly dissimilarly. The major factor between the two is that they are both spread by droplet transmission and have similar disease presentation. That's mostly it. If you want more in depth and accurate information, go check the official sources, the WHO, CDC, or whoever is relevant for your locale. In fact, here:

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9-similarities-and-differences-with-influenza
 
MadGreenSon said:
If you can you still might want to get a check up at some point. There have been some frightening after effects noted and it's better to be safe.
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Oh, I'm aware. But I'm pretty confident at this point that I'm in the 99.x% that got through it just fine.

Still gotta admit, hit harder than any bug I've had in a loooong time.


Dnile said:
To echo Aleh, no it's not a flu! Influenza is a completely different virus to COVID-19
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Yes, I'm aware it's not influenza. That's why I called it a 'flu'. There is a difference.

I note that you're not getting mad at me for calling it a 'bug' when, in fact, it's clearly not any form of insect.
 
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Yes, I'm aware it's not influenza. That's why I called it a 'flu'. There is a difference.

I note that you're not getting mad at me for calling it a 'bug' when, in fact, it's clearly not any form of insect.
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"Bug" is generic slang for Just about any communicable disease. "Flu" is not.
 
Aleh said:
"Bug" is generic slang for Just about any communicable disease. "Flu" is not.
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That is true. "Flu" is generic slang limited to many types of influenza and numerous other viruses that typically have seasonal cycles and come with symptoms typically including (but are by no means limited to) nausea, numerous forms of respiratory distress, and fever.

Not unlike the word 'cold', which also doesn't name a specific disease. But having 'a cold' is typically interpreted to mean 'less severe' than a flu.

It isn't accurate to use 'flu' to describe food poisoning, but it is accurate to describe more extreme covid expressions as such.
 
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TanaNari said:
That is true. "Flu" is generic slang limited to many types of influenza and numerous other viruses that typically have seasonal cycles and come with symptoms typically including (but are by no means limited to) nausea, numerous forms of respiratory distress, and fever.

Not unlike the word 'cold', which also doesn't name a specific disease. But having 'a cold' is typically interpreted to mean 'less severe' than a flu.

It isn't accurate to use 'flu' to describe food poisoning, but it is accurate to describe more extreme covid expressions as such.
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I think Aleh's point is, that so many people have been using 'Flu' to down play it and it's potential effects... and the fact that Aleh is a practicing medical practitioner who constantly gets to see the effects of that mislabeling on those who are fundamentally alot more ignorant than you are...

Its perhaps better to NOT be an asshole about it and insist on the right terminology to keep people from thinking it's JUST a Flu even if the word Flu is something we tend to use for 'Any generic respatory viral infection'.


I mean respecting the Medical practitioners who are having it super rough, and the people who in the thread itself have had parents die of it shouldn't be too hard right?



I mean it's good you recovered from it, and fuck yeah on you getting through it better than those times you had an actual flu, but at the same time, spare a little extra though to be considerate. I mean I KNOW you post in here enough to know why Greenson and Aleh are on you about this.
 
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I mean it's good you recovered from it, and fuck yeah on you getting through it better than those times you had an actual flu, but at the same time, spare a little extra though to be considerate. I mean I KNOW you post in here enough to know why Greenson and Aleh are on you about this.
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Oh, I'm aware... but I refuse to let crybullying control my behavior... I consider that sort of self-censorship to be a far greater threat than any plague could be in the modern world.

I will continue referring to it as whatever the fuck I want, and being told not to is only going to make me want to do it more.
 
TanaNari said:
Oh, I'm aware... but I refuse to let crybullying control my behavior... I consider that sort of self-censorship to be a far greater threat than any plague could be in the modern world.

I will continue referring to it as whatever the fuck I want, and being told not to is only going to make me want to do it more.
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Hey man, call it whatever you want. I was just expressing concern because I think you're cool and I'd hate to lose you anytime soon.
 
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