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A lot of people say that Jaune should have died instead of Pyrrha.
That seems just like a bad end waiting to happen.
Because in this scenario, Jaune somehow shielded Pyrrha from a fatal blow, in which case Cinder is still going to kill her anyways and if say Jaune pushed her away and still went to fight Cinder by himself, then too Cinder is just going to come back and kill Pyrrha again.
Because here is the sad fact, Cinder is stronger and more clever than Pyrrha.
Now you just have a Maiden and high level fighter on your ass, with no healer.
And yes, Pyr can obviously fill the role of a combatant and somehow make up for the lack of Jaune in some fights, but here is the thing, without Jaune's semblance Weiss would still die.
Because again, Cinder can defeat Pyrrha and this time Pyrrha won't have Jaune to come and save her. Also unlike Jaune, Cinder will take Pyrrha more seriously this time, because in Haven she just mocked him and let him do his own thing, which allowed him to use his awakened semblance.
And what about escorting all the civilians from Mantle? Jaune's semblance and leadership was prudent for that along with Ren.
And without Jaune and his guaranteed boosts, even Ren's improved semblance won't do shit.
So now you just have a Cinder who is even more cautious and bloodthirsty, who is going to finish her job, you have no healer/tank to rely on, and as soon as Salem shows up?
Unless you make the argument that Pyrrha can somehow beat her, they'll stand no chance at all.
A lot of the attitude of the anti-Jaune hatedom of RWBY unironically sounds like those parties in Light novels that kick out the healer because they are doing no damage.
Sure, they beat Cordovin, well congrats you still have that giant ass Grimm, who is not magnetic.
Also funnily enough, if these Jaune haters had watched Naruto, unironically they would appreciate a healer more because Tsunade made three rules of Medical Ninjas, which make absolute fucking sense.
1. no medic ninja shall ever stop medical treatment until the lives of their party members have come to an end
2. no medic ninja shall ever stand on the front lines
3. no medic ninja shall ever die until they are the last of their platoon
There is also a 4th rule but that is for those who can use the Hundred sealing: Yin Seal technique.
But it is still applicable to Jaune because of his ability to quickly recharge his Aura, and use it to heal and defend. So instead of relying on Hundred sealing, he can rely on his own Aura.
These rules make sense, you want the healer to die last so that you can keep more people alive.
Some other big brains say that it would parallel Patroclus and Achilles.
To them I will say a few points.
1. The premise of RWBY is that roles flip on their heads, the tin man doesn't have a heart, the brave little lion was a coward, the little red riding hood killed the wolf, THE GOD OF THE SEAS is afraid of Water.
So it makes no sense for Patroclus to die.
2. If you have read Illiad and rest of the Trojan war books, it would become very clear that why the death of Patroclus was such a big deal to not just Achilles.
Patroclus was EVERYONE's favourite person.
These are from Richmond Lattimore's 1951 translation of The Iliad.
Menelaus Defending Patroclus' Body (Book 17, lines 97–101)
Showing an almost motherly protectiveness.
Ajax (the Greater) Joins in the Defense (Book 17, lines 356–360)
Briseis' Lament (Book 19, lines 287–299)
The Army's Mourning (Book 19, lines 302–303)
All the women of the camp join in mourning Patroclus.
So here's the thing, he wasn't just important to Achilles. He is widely considered one of the most loved characters.
And Jaune here, is till this point none of this.
Yes his friends would be sad, but not to the level that somebody inspired by Patroclus deserves.
That seems just like a bad end waiting to happen.
Because in this scenario, Jaune somehow shielded Pyrrha from a fatal blow, in which case Cinder is still going to kill her anyways and if say Jaune pushed her away and still went to fight Cinder by himself, then too Cinder is just going to come back and kill Pyrrha again.
Because here is the sad fact, Cinder is stronger and more clever than Pyrrha.
Now you just have a Maiden and high level fighter on your ass, with no healer.
And yes, Pyr can obviously fill the role of a combatant and somehow make up for the lack of Jaune in some fights, but here is the thing, without Jaune's semblance Weiss would still die.
Because again, Cinder can defeat Pyrrha and this time Pyrrha won't have Jaune to come and save her. Also unlike Jaune, Cinder will take Pyrrha more seriously this time, because in Haven she just mocked him and let him do his own thing, which allowed him to use his awakened semblance.
And what about escorting all the civilians from Mantle? Jaune's semblance and leadership was prudent for that along with Ren.
And without Jaune and his guaranteed boosts, even Ren's improved semblance won't do shit.
So now you just have a Cinder who is even more cautious and bloodthirsty, who is going to finish her job, you have no healer/tank to rely on, and as soon as Salem shows up?
Unless you make the argument that Pyrrha can somehow beat her, they'll stand no chance at all.
A lot of the attitude of the anti-Jaune hatedom of RWBY unironically sounds like those parties in Light novels that kick out the healer because they are doing no damage.
Sure, they beat Cordovin, well congrats you still have that giant ass Grimm, who is not magnetic.
Also funnily enough, if these Jaune haters had watched Naruto, unironically they would appreciate a healer more because Tsunade made three rules of Medical Ninjas, which make absolute fucking sense.
1. no medic ninja shall ever stop medical treatment until the lives of their party members have come to an end
2. no medic ninja shall ever stand on the front lines
3. no medic ninja shall ever die until they are the last of their platoon
There is also a 4th rule but that is for those who can use the Hundred sealing: Yin Seal technique.
But it is still applicable to Jaune because of his ability to quickly recharge his Aura, and use it to heal and defend. So instead of relying on Hundred sealing, he can rely on his own Aura.
These rules make sense, you want the healer to die last so that you can keep more people alive.
Some other big brains say that it would parallel Patroclus and Achilles.
To them I will say a few points.
1. The premise of RWBY is that roles flip on their heads, the tin man doesn't have a heart, the brave little lion was a coward, the little red riding hood killed the wolf, THE GOD OF THE SEAS is afraid of Water.
So it makes no sense for Patroclus to die.
2. If you have read Illiad and rest of the Trojan war books, it would become very clear that why the death of Patroclus was such a big deal to not just Achilles.
Patroclus was EVERYONE's favourite person.
These are from Richmond Lattimore's 1951 translation of The Iliad.
Menelaus Defending Patroclus' Body (Book 17, lines 97–101)
"But Menelaos, dear to Ares, stood over Patroklos,
speared him round with his great spear, as a mother cow
stands lowing over the calf she has brought forth.
For Menelaos, Atreus' son, stood over Patroklos."
Showing an almost motherly protectiveness.
Ajax (the Greater) Joins in the Defense (Book 17, lines 356–360)
Two of the greatest Achean soldiers are there just to make sure that his body is defended."Then Aias came near him, carrying like a wall his shield,
and stood fast by Menelaos. So the two of them
thought only of fighting round fallen Patroklos."
Briseis' Lament (Book 19, lines 287–299)
"You were always so gentle. You would not let me weep.
You told me that godlike Achilles would make me his wedded wife,
and take me back in his ships to Phthia,
and there among the Myrmidons we would have our wedding feast.
So now I weep your death without ceasing. You were kind always."
The Army's Mourning (Book 19, lines 302–303)
"So she spoke, weeping, and the women mourned in answer,
mourning for Patroklos, but each for her own sorrows."
All the women of the camp join in mourning Patroclus.
So here's the thing, he wasn't just important to Achilles. He is widely considered one of the most loved characters.
And Jaune here, is till this point none of this.
Yes his friends would be sad, but not to the level that somebody inspired by Patroclus deserves.