With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

Assblaster5000 · Oct 16, 2020

Agent Orange said:
Ok, I'll ask you this question again in 300 and then in 700 years. See if something changed.

If any of us have lived that long then we're Transhumans, maybe even Posthumans, and likely would, if we so chose, remember ever moment of our lives that have occurred since in enough detail to tell you about "That guy I met at a bar on Mars a few centuries back."

Pinklestia · Oct 16, 2020

Agent Orange said:
Do you know (or care) how ridiculous that sounds?

Have you ever read DC Comics?,Or watched Superfriends?

To sum up, super vampire ate so much he shrank the universe. Don't like that? You are reading the wrong story.

Alexcorvin · Oct 16, 2020

Assblaster5000 said:
Mr. Headgear is also pop control for The Celestials, Discount Nekron here is/was just an ass.

Darko said:
I also think Galactus was there to keep something much worse from coming out by acting almost like a barrier and he needed planets for the power to keep doing that.

How does one explain Life Bringer Mode, then? Because, IIRC, that was what Galactus was supposed to be, the first victims of his Eternal Hunger were just the unfortunates who woke him up too early, or some such? The Infinity Watch or whoever basically forced him back into his crib (the incubation pod he emerged from) and put ISO 7 or whatever it was from the Battle Realm into the incubation pod with him... basically turned him into Lifebringer Galactus.

Assblaster5000 · Oct 16, 2020

Alexcorvin said:
How does one explain Life Bringer Mode, then? Because, IIRC, that was what Galactus was supposed to be, the first victims of his Eternal Hunger were just the unfortunates who woke him up too early, or some such? The Infinity Watch or whoever basically forced him back into his crib (the incubation pod he emerged from) and put ISO 7 or whatever it was from the Battle Realm into the incubation pod with him... basically turned him into Lifebringer Galactus.

Galactus has a really long and, As Is Tradition, kinda' stupid backstory, but the relevant main points I remember are:

1) Galactus was actually two people in the previous multiverse ( which was two multiverses ago now because Marvel wanted to do a reset but also not), some scientist guy and the last Eternity(?) that decided to fuse so they could live into the next iteration of the multiverse.

2) Galactus being a planet eater wasn't really part of the plan, like you said.

3) Everyone that could have changed it either didn't want to or weren't allowed to because Galactus eating planets kept The Celestials from becoming the single most populous species in the multiverse, and The Celestials becoming that is bad because they're Marvel Mad Scientiststm with Maltrusian tech levels that destroy planets in order to reproduce.

TheMidnightRook · Oct 16, 2020

Handlewithcare said:
Also, the United Planets idea of fighting him was to make his hunger worse? Brilliant idea.

I can actually see a certain logic to it. They probably intended for it to cause him to start expending energy faster than he could drain it, at least while in combat, and thereby wear him down to a point where he could be contained/killed. A solid plan, in theory, they just fumbled the execution.

Darko · Oct 16, 2020

Alexcorvin said:
How does one explain Life Bringer Mode, then? Because, IIRC, that was what Galactus was supposed to be, the first victims of his Eternal Hunger were just the unfortunates who woke him up too early, or some such? The Infinity Watch or whoever basically forced him back into his crib (the incubation pod he emerged from) and put ISO 7 or whatever it was from the Battle Realm into the incubation pod with him... basically turned him into Lifebringer Galactus.

This wouldn't exactly be the first a comic character has had a conflicting backstory.

Galactus had been said to be everything from the balance between Eternity and Death, to the guy that will give birth to the new universe, to the guy that was made to keep Abraxas, an embodiment of destruction, sealed away.

He was also apparently meant to be a devourer of worlds and the reason they managed to change him into a life bringer was because the universe just underwent a major shift after the whole God Emperor Doom thing.

Assblaster5000 · Oct 16, 2020

Darko said:
This wouldn't exactly be the first a comic character has had a conflicting backstory.

Galactus had been said to be everything from the balance between Eternity and Death, to the guy that will give birth to the new universe, to the guy that was made to keep Abraxas, an embodiment of destruction, sealed away.

He was also apparently meant to be a devourer of worlds and the reason they managed to change him into a life bringer was because the universe just underwent a major shift after the whole God Emperor Doom thing.

Welcome to Marvel, consistency is for nerds, hubris is a cowards word, and resetting the universe or branching out into new ones is for those losers that have the word comics in their name twice.

Mr Zoat · Oct 17, 2020

Where They
Stood

The Ender of Days reappears on the platform where I'm waiting.

"I've thought about it."

I raise my eyebrows as-.

"Sorry, none of the files I read had your name."

"You didn't tell me yours, either."

I didn't, did I?

"I apologise. My name is Grayven. I'm from Apokolips, but you probably already know that."

"No. All Source-bound creatures taste too similar to me for the difference to be worth mentioning. Apokolips was memorable, but its inhabitants? Hardly."

"Lots of tasty misery? Father considered himself something of an expert."

"He was a virtuoso in a single note. I've played entire orchestras. He defined himself by the lives of others while I define myself."

"And what name do you define yourself as?"

"I have been called many things. 'Starbreaker' was the name the Justice Legion used for me. It serves as well as any other."

"Alright, Starbreaker. Got to say, you're sounding more and more like a high-end New God. Godly powers, a God Name-."

"I am not so pathetic."

"You never met my grandfather. There was always a wide range of power levels amongst my kind. You're not that out there."

His lip curls.

"I didn't come here to be insulted."

"Alright, alright. So what's your answer?"

"My answer is 'no'." He smiles faintly. "I can still live a very long time. You seem like the cautious type. I think you will try everything you can to survive without risking yourself. And I think that you're a good deal more imaginative than the near-human refuse that litters the Earth today. I think there's a good chance that you'll be able to work something out before I'm dangerously weakened-."

He frowns.

"Where's your knife?"

"By now?" I raise my eyebrows. "About six inches into your primary body's right ear."

I step up to him and grab him around the head! He counters by extending claws and stabbing at my forearms. He's strong enough to go through my armour but between my resilience and the regeneration he can't do enough damage to break my hold.

"You really shouldn't have told me that your powers don't work on things with your genetic template."

I hook my fingers together and squeeze.

"Though if it's any consolation at all-"

Ruby beams blast from his eyes, biting into the flesh of my forehead as I duck my head slightly but swiftly cutting out as I move my thumbs to crush his -argh!- eyes. I feel the flesh being stripped from my thumbs and the disconcerting feeling of my own bones falling off, but the beams cut out and his head… Is… Compressing…

"-you achieved far more than any other New God."

His head-. Doesn't exactly burst so much as come apart, his body decaying into grey vapour a moment later.

I step back from the platform where I'd been waiting for his response… No real pain from my thumbs, and though the stumps are a little disconcerting I can already see them starting to regrow. No need for mana infusions when I'm in full conquering and ruling mode, I take it. No, irrelevant. I turn away and walk back into the station proper.

"Anything from Artemis?"

A shimmer of rainbow light, and the woman herself strides back into the command centre, along with her retinue.

I grin. "Dead?"

"He kinda turned to dust. Yours?"

"Dusted." I smile. "When did you get this sneaky?"

"Ah, some time between Dad dropping me in a forest at night next to a pack of wolves with a rucksack full of bacon, and working as a superhero in Gotham."

"Right, but I thought you were learning Tao's abilities."

"Tao's… Kinda the God of Warrior Heroes who Happen to use Bows. I'm more like the God of Bow-Ninjas."

"Great, so-" Outside of the station, the sun goes out. "-now there's literally nothing in the universe that can stop us."

"Unless he kills himself as a mortal."

"Yeah, someone who was prepared to endure torture through starvation for this long isn't going to kill himself just to spit in our eyes. Mother Box?"

"Ping!"

"Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it."

"Ah…" The Vat Lord hesitantly approaches. "My lady? My lord? The sun is… Gone."

"To be expected, really. That wasn't the sun; that was a synthetic sun generated by Starbreaker using his stored power. But without him around draining everything, we can build artificial gravity generators strong enough to stop the Earth crashing into the Source Wall. With a little longer we can build an energy to matter converter and use that to build a proper sun. And once the spine riders have finished with Starbreaker's mortal form we can get busy expanding the universe and rebuild the star system."

Artemis looks mildly concerned. "And… How long do we have until the planet crashes?"

"Well, the Earth was barely moving, and while the universe is small compared to its old size it's not small in absolute terms. We should have plenty of… Time…"

"What?"

For the first time in a while I take my rings out of their pouch in my armour. No glow, but… That's probably just as well. If Starbreaker had released all of his stored energy in one go there probably wouldn't be much left.

"If we can find a way to give my rings even the smallest spark of charge, I can bring my personal lanterns out of subspace. At that point things become simplified to the point of absurdity. Do you know any Sheeda who specialise in emotional magic?"

"Yeah, I've got… One city where they do that. They're kinda weird, though."

"Sounds like just the ticket. The time machine thing is still at the speculative stage, but-."

One of the Sheeda manning the consoles jerks in surprise.

"My lord and lady… A Harvest Dreadnought has returned from the past, directly over the old capital!"

I frown.

That… Can't be right. Sivana… Checked. The Dreadnoughts don't have their own time drives.

Artemis walks over to the console as its operator calls up an illusory image of the Dreadnought.

"Just one?"

"Yes, my lady. And no sign of the Castle Revolving."

"Does the Dreadnought have any kind of identification? Do you know which one it is?"

"Not… From the last Harrowing fleet. I don't… Know."

Artemis looks at the image for a few moments, then turns to face me.

"We need to get down there."

I nod. "Indeed we do."

Darko · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
"He was a virtuoso in a single note.

Wow, way to insult old stone face there Starry.

Mr Zoat said:
"Anything from Artemis?"

This sentence feels a bit weird.

Maybe 'Anything from you Artemis'

B.B. Rain · Oct 17, 2020

Will Paragon and Renegade finally meet?

Probably not, but I can dream...

Vaermina · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
That… Can't be right. Sivana… Checked. The Dreadnoughts don't have their own time drives.

There's this thing called "being wrong"...

On that note, your plan wouldn't actually work, so it's a good thing a dues ex machina has shown up to get you out of there.

Fellow · Oct 17, 2020

I'm guessing it's Melmoth

The Unaligned Player · Oct 17, 2020

Vaermina said:
On that note, your plan wouldn't actually work, so it's a good thing a dues ex machina has shown up to get you out of there.

Why are you like this?

RichardWhereat · Oct 17, 2020

My guess is Paragon Pavlos.

Handlewithcare · Oct 17, 2020

Wait, why did he generate a sun?

Agent Orange · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
I grin. "Dead?"

"He kinda turned to dust. Yours?"

"Dusted." I smile.

This went waaay too easy. My ~~paranoia~~ Genre Savvyness tells me something is off. But I really want this episode over and done with so I'll take an anti-climactic big bad disposal.

Mr Zoat said:
"Great, so-" Outside of the station, the sun goes out. "-now there's literally nothing in the universe that can stop us."

Ok, now you're just thumbing your nose at Murphy

Seriously what the fuck Grayven, I know you went native but thought you were at least a little better than Paragon.
Oh yeah, the frickin' Sun went out in the background! Maybe do something about it pronto.

Mr Zoat said:
For the first time in a while I take my rings out of their pouch in my armour. No glow, but… That's probably just as well. If Starbreaker had released all of his stored energy in one go there probably wouldn't be much left.

Maybe my brain is just too slow (pre-morning coffee) but how do these two conclusions connect? Why is no glow good and how does that connect with ~~Vamp-Ra~~ Starbreaker blowing everything up?

Mr Zoat said:
"My lord and lady… A Harvest Dreadnought has returned from the past, directly over the old capital!"

A time ship just happens to pop in just as they defeat the big bad and comment on the lack of time machine... How... ~~contrieved~~ convenient. Fuck it I'll take it! Anything to put an end to this episode must be a good thing.

Mr Zoat said:
That… Can't be right. Sivana… Checked. The Dreadnoughts don't have their own time drives.

Well he failed a spot check apparently. Just shut up and take it! 'Board the ship and sieze it for your Lord and Lady! Take no one alive!'

webxro · Oct 17, 2020

My guess is Fairy King, IDK why, but that's why my hunch is saying.

Mr Zoat · Oct 17, 2020

Darko said:
This sentence feels a bit weird.

Maybe 'Anything from you Artemis'

He's asking the crew if she's sent a message. She only returns a moment later.

Chojin Patriarch · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
Where They
Stood

The Ender of Days reappears on the platform where I'm waiting.

It's been a while, I suspect. No hurry when time itself is playing silly buggers with perception.

"I've thought about it."

I raise my eyebrows as-.

Ah, in all this time, you still haven't caught his name? Sloppy, Grayven.

"Sorry, none of the files I read had your name."

"You didn't tell me yours, either."

Well, rudeness on both sides. The real Fair Folk would be horrified.. and Pissed.

I didn't, did I?

"I apologise. My name is Grayven. I'm from Apokolips, but you probably already know that."

Would you care overly about the name of an ant trying to bite you as you smash its home? Because that's what he's seeing you as...

"No. All Source-bound creatures taste too similar to me for the difference to be worth mentioning. Apokolips was memorable, but it's inhabitants? Hardly."

"Lots of tasty misery? Father considered himself something of an expert."

Bet the firepits were spicy. You'd expect him to remember the Omega Effect, at least.

"He was a virtuoso in a single note. I've played entire orchestras. He defined himself by the lives of others while I define myself."

"And what name do you define yourself as?"

Getting back to the point. Although that is a sick-ass burn on Darkseid.

"I have been called many things. 'Starbreaker' was the name the Justice Legion used for me. It serves as well as any other."

"Alright, Starbreaker. Got to say, you're sounding more and more like a high-end New God. Godly powers, a God Name-."

Which you are about to take away from him, depending on his answer.

"I am not so pathetic."

"You never met my grandfather. There was always a wide range of power levels amongst my kind. You're not that out there."

Oh, you love poking the nigh-omnipotent entities, don't you? I wonder what body part you're about to lose this time?

His lip curls.

"I didn't come here to be insulted."

No, you're planning to do the insulting. But you're up against the New God of Trolling here.

"Alright, alright. So what's your answer?"

"My answer is 'no'." He smiles faintly. "I can still live a very long time. You seem like the cautious type. I think you will try everything you can to survive without risking yourself. And I think that you're a good deal more imaginative than the near-human refuse that litters the Earth today. I think there's a good chance that you'll be able to work something out before I'm dangerously weakened-."

Ah. Well, I won't say it was nice knowing you, we've hardly seen you at all. On the upside, you are about to get a second chance at gathering power...

He frowns.

"Where's your knife?"

Boy, did he ever fail his spot check. Too bad you aren't omniscient, Starbreaker...

"By now?" I raise my eyebrows. "About six inches into your primary body's right ear."

I step up to him and grab him around the head! He counters by extending claws and stabbing at my forearms. He's strong enough to go through my armour but between my resilience and the regeneration he can't do enough damage to break my hold.

Why attack the 'projection'? Because There's no telling just how much of himself is in there. Better to kill him in every possible way.

"You really shouldn't have told me that your powers don't work on things with your genetic template."

Now when did that happen? Last chapter? I must have missed that little factoid... <Checks> Ah, yes, his comment about the one place his powers see as part of him...

I hook my fingers together and squeeze.

"Though if it's any consolation at all-"

Probably a little hard to hear with your palms covering his ears, assuming he uses them at all...

Ruby beams blast from his eyes, biting into the flesh of my forehead as I duck my head slightly but swiftly cutting out as I move my thumbs to crush his -argh!- eyes. I feel the flesh being stripped from my thumbs and the disconcerting feeling of my own bones falling off, but the beams cut out and his head… Is… Compressing…

"-you achieved far more than any other New God."

And that would be a great tale for Darkseid if you ever see him again... But that would just make him go looking for Starbreaker in the here and now...

His head-. Doesn't exactly burst so much as come apart, his body decaying into grey vapour a moment later.

I step back from the platform where I'd been waiting for his response… No real pain from my thumbs, and though the stumps are a little disconcerting I can already see them starting to regrow. No need for mana infusions when I'm in full conquering and ruling mode, I take it. No, irrelevant. I turn away and walk back into the station proper.

Ouch. At least his Godhead is so rampant he's not impaired by the damage.

"Anything from Artemis?"

A shimmer of rainbow light, and the woman herself strides back into the command centre, along with her retinue.

Ah, the assassin returns. I wonder how she feels about using the skills her father taught her for their intended purpose...

I grin. "Dead?"

"He kinda turned to dust. Yours?"

"Dusted." I smile. "When did you get this sneaky?"

Which is a little concerning. The Sword releasing his power must have caused one hell of a breakdown in his cellular structure, or whatever equivalent he had.

"Ah, some time between Dad dropping me in a forest at night next to a pack of wolves with a rucksack full of bacon, and working as a superhero in Gotham."

"Right, but I thought you were learning Tao's abilities."

Formative experiences play a big part of a New God's soul's nature, Grayven. You're only Conquest because Father Box set that mold around you as yours formed.

"Tao's… Kinda the God of Warrior Heroes who Happen to use Bows. I'm more like the God of Bow-Ninjas."

Sneaky and silent... Until the target sprouts an arrow somewhere vital. Lovely image.

"Great, so-" Outside of the station, the sun goes out. "-now there's literally nothing in the universe that can stop us."

... Grayven, no. Even you know better than to taunt that Sod Murphy like that! You are going to get everything you deserve now!

"Unless he kills himself as a mortal."

"Yeah, someone who was prepared to endure torture through starvation for this long isn't going to kill himself just to spit in our eyes. Mother Box?"

How do you know, Grayven? Could you read his mind? See his fears and wants? Never underestimate someone's spite.

"Ping!"

"Glad to hear it. Glad to hear it."

Ah, she's feeling much better without the draining effect now? Excellent.

"Ah…" The Vat Lord hesitantly approaches. "My lady? My lord? The sun is… Gone."

"To be expected, really. That wasn't the sun; that was a synthetic sun generated by Starbreaker using his stored power. But without him around draining everything, we can build artificial gravity generators strong enough to stop the Earth crashing into the Source Wall. With a little longer we can build an energy to matter converter and use that to build a proper sun. And once the spine riders have finished with Starbreaker's mortal form we can get busy expanding the universe and rebuild the star system."

Such a well-thought-out plan, Grayven... So many places for something to go wrong. I can hear Murphy cocking his Chekhov's Gun right now...

Artemis looks mildly concerned. "And… How long do we have until the planet crashes?"

"Well, the Earth was barely moving, and while the universe is small compared to its old size it's not small in absolute terms. We should have plenty of… Time…"

True, an Astronomical Unit is a fair distance. Even if the real space is smaller thanks to Starbreaker's artificial sun, there's still a chance...

"What?"

For the first time in a while I take my rings out of their pouch in my armour. No glow, but… That's probably just as well. If Starbreaker had released all of his stored energy in one go there probably wouldn't be much left.

Yes, it would have been quite the Big Bang... Thankfully he went out with a fizzle.

"If we can find a way to give my rings even the smallest spark of charge, I can bring my personal lanterns out of subspace. At that point things become simplified to the point of absurdity. Do you know any Sheeda who specialise in emotional magic?"

"Yeah, I've got… One city where they do that. They're kinda weird, though."

That's saying something, by Sheeda standards. Probably because their own emotions have been stunted for so long...

"Sounds like just the ticket. The time machine thing is still at the speculative stage, but-."

One of the Sheeda manning the consoles jerks in surprise.

Oh, what's that noise? Sounds like a gunshot!

"My lord and lady… A Harvest Dreadnought has returned from the past, directly over the old capital!"

I frown.

That… Can't be right. Sivana… Checked. The Dreadnoughts don't have their own time drives.

Sounds like someone failed their spot check there. I mean, I don't expect Thaddeus Senior put any skill points into Perception, just relied on naturally high ability scores...

Artemis walks over to the console as its operator calls up an illusory image of the Dreadnought.

"Just one?"

Is it too soon to say "Heeeeeere's Melmoth!"

"Yes, my lady. And no sign of the Castle Revolving."

"Does the Dreadnought have any kind of identification? Do you know which one it is?"

Oh, this is going to be amusing. Melmoth with all his variant Sheeda-beasts and the Columbians, dragged along by blood-based mind control or sheer desperation...

"Not… From the last Harrowing fleet. I don't… Know."

Artemis looks at the image for a few moments, then turns to face me.

Looks like that shoe's made a commitment to dropping now. And they're right in the way of a stomping.

"We need to get down there."

I nod. "Indeed we do."

And Melmoth's just sitting there going "What. What. What! What the hell has happened to my planet?!"

While I doubt this is Paragon's Melmoth turning up (they're truly separate timelines thanks to Time Trapper) I doubt he's going to be happy about the changes Grayven and Artemis have wrought. Things are about to get shouty...

WereDragon · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
"Tao's… Kinda the God of Warrior Heroes who Happen to use Bows. I'm more like the God of Bow-Ninjas."

Wonder what Green Arrow's specialisation is. God of archers who happen to be heroes?

Vaermina · Oct 17, 2020

Oh hey, plot hole, why wasn't the swords magic eaten along side everything else?

Aabcehmu · Oct 17, 2020

Vaermina said:
Oh hey, plot hole, why wasn't the swords magic eaten along side everything else?

Tastes Bad /s

Darko · Oct 17, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah. Well, I won't say it was nice knowing you, we've hardly seen you at all. On the upside, you are about to get a second chance at gathering power...

Me thinks not.

Renegade is probably going to just take the knowledge he has to fix everything up and then just kill him.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Ah, the assassin returns. I wonder how she feels about using the skills her father taught her for their intended purpose...

She has technically been using the skills he taught her, like stealth and such things, but now she's using them for killing, which she may have gotten used depending how long they've been gone.

Chojin Patriarch said:
Formative experiences play a big part of a New God's soul's nature, Grayven. You're only Conquest because Father Box set that mold around you as yours formed.

Well that and he acted like Grayven to convince others he was Grayven.

Chojin Patriarch said:
... Grayven, no. Even you know better than to taunt that Sod Murphy like that! You are going to get everything you deserve now!

Since when has renegade known better.

Chojin Patriarch said:
How do you know, Grayven? Could you read his mind? See his fears and wants? Never underestimate someone's spite.

No, but it's a fairly logical assumption to make.

Chojin Patriarch said:
While I doubt this is Paragon's Melmoth turning up (they're truly separate timelines thanks to Time Trapper) I doubt he's going to be happy about the changes Grayven and Artemis have wrought. Things are about to get shouty...

He may be happy since now he can destroy the hopes of the rest of the Sheeda, who may have thought their civilization will be saved.

Agent Orange · Oct 17, 2020

Mr Zoat said:
"If we can find a way to give my rings even the smallest spark of charge, I can bring my personal lanterns out of subspace. At that point things become simplified to the point of absurdity. Do you know any Sheeda who specialise in emotional magic?"

"Yeah, I've got… One city where they do that. They're kinda weird, though."

"Sounds like just the ticket.

That it does. Even if Vamp-Ra completely drained the Planes of [insert Emotion] I bet that with enough time and effort (and desperation) a large group of mages specialised in emotion magic could probably kludge together an approximation of one [at least something close enough to power a single power ring]. Should be plenty of Fear going around what with the sun puffing out of existence. And Yellow rings are good at working of ambient emotions. Even if they end up having to continually maintain it so Grayven can use his ring, it should be worth it.

Handlewithcare said:
Wait, why did he generate a sun

Deal with young Melmoth. If Vamp-Ra helps him get in power and maintain the sun he will arrange for his people to be miserable and feed Vamp-Ra over time. Sustainable ~~food~~ energy source really

Win-win for everyone! And by 'everyone' I mean Vamp-Ra and Melmoth. Fuck the Sheeda or the humans I guess.

WereDragon said:
Wonder what Green Arrow's specialisation is. God of archers who happen to be heroes?

New God of ~~Arrow~~ Projectile Crafting?

Chaoswind · Oct 17, 2020

Would be fun if this is Paragon Paul coming to end the episode by finally meeting up the Grayven (him) he has been hearing about, but it will probably be Melmoth..

Agent Orange · Oct 17, 2020

Chojin Patriarch said:
Is it too soon to say "Heeeeeere's Melmoth!"

Chaoswind said:
it will probably be Melmoth...

Which Melmoth is the question.

One of the Melmoths is currently Paragon's bitchboi and presumably in the middle of defending the puny humans from the nasty Sheeda (what a plot twist!/s).

The other Melmoth... we never actually saw him did we? He would've been playing Sims with the Columbians around the time the Harvest happened (the only reason he revealed himself as alive after all was because Paragon made a mess of his sandbox). So the Renegade side Melmoth should still be doing his side project right?

Where did he have even get himself a Harvest Dreadnought? All he had was the orbital base/ship thing last time we saw him? Did he portal to Earth during the Harvest/invasion and stole a Dreadnought during the fight? Grayven/Sivanna would've been a little preoccupied at the time to pay attention. Big problem with this is that the IFF didn't show it as a part of the last Harvest fleet.

Ofc this is all a big IF. We don't know it's Melmoth.

Darko · Oct 17, 2020

Agent Orange said:
Which Melmoth is the question.

One of the Melmoths is currently Paragon's bitchboi and presumably in the middle of defending the puny humans from the nasty Sheeda (what a plot twist!/s).

The other Melmoth... we never actually saw him did we? He would've been playing Sims with the Columbians around the time the Harvest happened (the only reason he revealed himself as alive after all was because Paragon made a mess of his sandbox). So the Renegade side Melmoth should still be doing his side project right?

Where did he have even get himself a Harvest Dreadnought? All he had was the orbital base/ship thing last time we saw him? Did he portal to Earth during the Harvest/invasion and stole a Dreadnought during the fight? Grayven/Sivanna would've been a little preoccupied at the time to pay attention. Big problem with this is that the IFF didn't show it as a part of the last Harvest fleet.

Ofc this is all a big IF. We don't know it's Melmoth.

Melmoth, assuming it is him, could have built himself a Dradnought after he finished with the Columbians.

Agent Orange · Oct 17, 2020

Darko said:
could have built himself a Dradnought after he finished with the Columbians

Knowing him he probably built it out of Columbians [brings a whole new meaning to 'human resources' doesn't it] and crewed it with the Warlocks.

"Captain Mel! We're here! The sun is gone! Why is the sun gone!"
"What?! But my deal! Put it on screen, now! And open hailing frequencies."
"...But Captain, Sheeda have no space magic radio. You said so."
"Shut up, Wesley!"

jasonh23761 · Oct 17, 2020

Big knife op, pls nerf.

In a seriousness though I did quite enjoy this arc. Paragon is interesting, Renegade keeps me coming back.

Pinklestia · Oct 17, 2020

Vaermina said:
On that note, your plan wouldn't actually work,

Actually with the universe being so small and with so few beings left there is literally hundreds to thousands of not quite cosmic powers to claim.

Alternatively just do a song and dance with Grayven pony powers.

With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Well worn.

Goodbye

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Well worn.

Connoisseur.

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Dedicated ragequitter

Connoisseur.

I trust you know where the happy button is?

Well worn.

Know what you're doing yet?

Agony that desires to meet Extinction

Aia airëa Fëanáro.

Versed in the lewd.

Experienced.

Benevolent Bystander

Dedicated ragequitter

Veteran Lurker

Bookwyrm

Well worn.

Confusion As a Natural State of Being

Connoisseur.

Experienced.

Lord of nonsense

Experienced.

Connoisseur.

Experienced.

Not too sore, are you?

Well worn.

Users who are viewing this thread