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With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Fourteen)

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Mr Zoat said:
"ClusterCorp has an excellent safety record for the lives of our senior executives! All standard tracking procedures will have been implemented the moment anything untoward happened! I have received no signal, and my ring shows nothing!"
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welcome to Earth, where anti-scan ward have become a massive hit
 
King of Frost said:
rapist version of himself.
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I... don't think he technically counts as a rapist?

The way I understand it is the original personality is basically killed and replaced with a new, more... amenable personality.

So the persoanlity wipe would count as murder, but the new person is then in charge of the body. So not rape... but since the original personality is dead and he is having sex with it... does that make it necrophilia? Or whatever the manslaughter equivalent of Necrophilia would be?

Ooh, but since he created the new personality, would it count as a pseudo incest (he's basically the father) grooming type of rape?

Inquiring minds want to know.



The ability of comic book bullshit to uterly twist and break the legal system is amazing.
 
TheEyes said:
Think that's more the waist or kidney area on a human, but who knows what the vital areas of a Tamaranian are? Maybe their brains are in their shoulders? That'd frankly make a lot more sense than putting them in an external sensory appendage like those Earthian monkeys; what evolutionary mistake thought that was a good idea?
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You want to put the majority of sensory organs near the brain due to potential information transmission lag - also due to amount of nerves required for those organs to be used. If our eyes were further away, we would lose out fairly substantially on reaction speed. It takes a noticeable amount of a second for a message to get from the brain to any part of the body to move - imagine if the same thing happened whenever you needed to move your eyes or something and your vision processing was always a noticeable part of a second behind actual events.
 
Grimnar said:
The ability of comic book bullshit to uterly twist and break the legal system is amazing.
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Comic books are a small window into a world which is, in theory, a twisted reflection of our own. Where we don't know the context that laws were made with, or enforced. But, yes, I agree, it's often 'bullshit'. :)
 
TheEyes said:
That'd frankly make a lot more sense than putting them in an external sensory appendage like those Earthian monkeys; what evolutionary mistake thought that was a good idea?
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God.

What, you never wondered why it took God five days to make Earth and only a day for the rest of the universe? God was baked.
 
Manga Khan might have incentive to make the Russians disappear and lie about it.

New theory: Dox expected something like this to happen and wanted to get rid of Khan by making Paul aware if the issue.
 
Mr Zoat said:
The four of us wait patiently outside the external zeta tube terminus for Garfield and Missus Logan to arrive from Qurac. I haven't been back here since the first day I came to the mountain
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Link goes to another site SV if I recall correctly perhaps that should be edited to point to local copy on this site?
Mr Zoat said:
It's the same problem I have with Donna: converting super strength into cash just isn't that easy.
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I'm sorry, but what? super strength should be easily convertible to cash as long as you're willing to be at least semi public with it there is a lot of expensive equipment that is used to do heavy lifting and yea in ports and places where this is done routinely they're just going to stick with the cranes they're already using but for places where the equipment has to be brought in for just one or two days worth of work then taken out again like construction on high rise buildings... if there was a person who could do the job of the heavy equipment faster and easier I'm sure they'd be willing to pay that person %80 of what they'd have to pay to rent the equipment they no longer have to rent

or ship breaking as I could swear he discussed with the terror twins or what ever they were called
 
ChiChi said:
Link goes to another site SV if I recall correctly perhaps that should be edited to point to local copy on this site?
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Thank you, updated.
I'm sorry, but what? super strength should be easily convertible to cash as long as you're willing to be at least semi public with it there is a lot of expensive equipment that is used to do heavy lifting and yea in ports and places where this is done routinely they're just going to stick with the cranes they're already using but for places where the equipment has to be brought in for just one or two days worth of work then taken out again like construction on high rise buildings... if there was a person who could do the job of the heavy equipment faster and easier I'm sure they'd be willing to pay that person %80 of what they'd have to pay to rent the equipment they no longer have to rent

or ship breaking as I could swear he discussed with the terror twins or what ever they were called
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A crane can be set to safely lift standard crates all over the world, and be operated by anyone who is qualified. A single person with super strength does an eight hour shift with... Some sort of special harness? Then goes home, and you're back to using a crane. Compare that to a telepath who can do a few hours work for the CIA each month and be well paid for it.

The ship-breaking thing is doable because they can pile the ships up and have the super strong people smash them apart without specialised equipment because they're just scrapping them anyway.
 
Mr Zoat said:
A crane can be set to safely lift standard crates all over the world, and be operated by anyone who is qualified. A single person with super strength does an eight hour shift with... Some sort of special harness? Then goes home, and you're back to using a crane. Compare that to a telepath who can do a few hours work for the CIA each month and be well paid for it.
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I did say the shipyard would just continue to use the crane but what about jobs where the crane is brought in to do one or two days worth of work then has to be removed like taking construction materials up a high rise building

jobs where the crane isn't used day after day after day but for a short duration before it has be removed

or a heavy piece of equipment needs to be moved in tight confines that to get a crane or other heavy equipment in place to do the job would mean putting a bit hole in a wall moving the thing then fixing the hole in the wall

sure these kinds of jobs aren't your standard come into work do the job go home and repeat day in day out but because of the temporary nature they typically pay a lot more than a standard job does
 
PrinceJonathan said:
Just Keep Calm and Ogle Koriand'r's Breasts.
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A universal remedy for your troubles.

Z3r0Sama said:
So anything artificial in space near earth is gone?

Justice League: We have a Watchtower.

Paul: You had a Watchtower.
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This made me think of this:

Trunks: I have an uncle?

Vegeta: You had an uncle.

Also.

Gohan:... I need an adult...

Krillin, Vegeta, Guru: I am an adult.

Don't know why I said the second one, but I did and I'm not regretting it.
 
ChiChi said:
I did say the shipyard would just continue to use the crane but what about jobs where the crane is brought in to do one or two days worth of work then has to be removed like taking construction materials up a high rise building

jobs where the crane isn't used day after day after day but for a short duration before it has be removed

or a heavy piece of equipment needs to be moved in tight confines that to get a crane or other heavy equipment in place to do the job would mean putting a bit hole in a wall moving the thing then fixing the hole in the wall

sure these kinds of jobs aren't your standard come into work do the job go home and repeat day in day out but because of the temporary nature they typically pay a lot more than a standard job does
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Oh, that could work. Unfortunately there isn't a superpowered labour exchange. An individual would have to get a manager, and then that manager would have to be able to create that job.

You also have to remember that true super strength is pretty uncommon, and the strength/flight combo that makes heavy lifting super easy is even more so.
 
Mr Zoat said:
"Why do you think her name sounds like 'coriander'?"
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Why does your name sound like male genitalia?

Seriously does anyone know why the people called Richard are sometimes called Dick?

Calling someone Freddie or Fred even if their name is Frederick makes sense, but calling someone Dick when they're named Richard really doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Just realised something.

The Russians were the first to get a guy in space and now their the first to get a fleet in space.

Guess they have a head start on the whole space fleet thing now too.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Oh, that could work. Unfortunately there isn't a superpowered labour exchange. An individual would have to get a manager, and then that manager would have to be able to create that job.

You also have to remember that true super strength is pretty uncommon, and the strength/flight combo that makes heavy lifting super easy is even more so.
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which just means that the supply side is virtually unique and can command a price nearly equal to the equipment cost that is being saved if not more than in some circumstances where that equipment would take longer to get into place than it would take the super strong to do the job and they're being paid extra for a rush job

just about any super power can be turned into cash if it's remotely useful for anything true it might take getting a manager to scout out jobs for it but if there were enough super powered people willing to do an honest job to make a lot of money then a system would arise to support it over time
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"I suppressed the area immediately around me. It was caning my power reserves just keeping a small area around me stable."
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draining?
 
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ChiChi said:
which just means that the supply side is virtually unique and can command a price nearly equal to the equipment cost that is being saved if not more than in some circumstances where that equipment would take longer to get into place than it would take the super strong to do the job and they're being paid extra for a rush job

just about any super power can be turned into cash if it's remotely useful for anything true it might take getting a manager to scout out jobs for it but if there were enough super powered people willing to do an honest job to make a lot of money then a system would arise to support it over time
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Insurance might also be an issue. It could certainly be done, but it wouldn't be quick or easy.
draining?
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No, as in 'to strike with a cane'.
 
Grimnar said:
I... don't think he technically counts as a rapist?

The way I understand it is the original personality is basically killed and replaced with a new, more... amenable personality.

So the persoanlity wipe would count as murder, but the new person is then in charge of the body. So not rape... but since the original personality is dead and he is having sex with it... does that make it necrophilia? Or whatever the manslaughter equivalent of Necrophilia would be?

Ooh, but since he created the new personality, would it count as a pseudo incest (he's basically the father) grooming type of rape?

Inquiring minds want to know.



The ability of comic book bullshit to uterly twist and break the legal system is amazing.
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Except it was that SI that said that was how it worked. We've seen from the people the SI and Graven assimilated that that's not really accurate. We know from the comics that assimilation explicitly does not release the soul so it very much isn't murder. This is like getting someone drunk / roofieing them and then saying since they seemed into it, it's not rape.
 
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Zig said:
Except it was that SI that said that was how it worked. We've seen from the people the SI and Graven assimilated that that's not really accurate. We know from the comics that assimilation explicitly does not release the soul so it very much isn't murder. This is like getting someone drunk / roofieing them and then saying since they seemed into it, it's not rape.
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Where did you get the idea that the League and Diana were assimilated? Tangseid use a ritual combining magic and the Orange light to fully rewire their desires.

Assimilation is a wholly different process, in terms of results, method and context.
 
Zig said:
This is like getting someone drunk / roofieing them and then saying since they seemed into it, it's not rape.
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I'd say its more like torturing them until they break, then teaching them to behave in ways he wanted them to and then saying because they want what he is doing to them it's not rape, but I don't think you're all that far off.

It can also be considered an extreme version of old timey electro shock therapy or lobotomy, where you tended to end up brain dead more often than not.

So it's like having your spouse, or some random person, committed because you found out they were a homosexual, having them subjected to electro shock until they can't think of any homosexual activities without feeling pain and then having sex with them, which they now believe is the right thing to do after having electricity shoot through their brain.

So it's an extremely disgusting, immoral and unnecessary thing to do.

The sad thing is that things like this happened in the past and still happen now in certain areas of the world.
 
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Idkusername said:
use a ritual combining magic and the Orange light to fully rewire their desires
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I'm unsure where 'magic' comes into it...

Best as I can tell from reading the various Kelly's Eye web bits the Eyes are (probably) alien, and therefore alien tech, not magic. This means they'll likely work off Earth, which is a relevant issue. And, makes Evil OL even more dangerous.

But, long-running boy's (adventure) comic stories often had multiple writers, who may or may not be using a common 'bible' - I'll bet you some of them wrote stuff under serious time pressure, possibly while half-asleep and/or half-drunk. :)

Reading about the comics, some writers were just really pleased to get to write stuff that wasn't (WW2) war stories or football (soccer)... The girl's comics were even worse... (Some might have read the comics their brother got. :) )

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The sad thing is that things like this happened in the past and still happen now in certain areas of the world.
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You might find it interesting to read the Stross novel Glasshouse, which might have touched on these sort of issues...
 
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