Used meaning "their bonus actually comes into play". E.g. if we brought the Heart artifact, but there wasn't actually a Heart check, then even though someone "used" the artifact it wasn't ever actually useful.
Agreed on the goals, disagree on the order.
I... Forgot about the summative nature of the lores on expeditions. Hmm. Will tweak the draft plan to include those more then.
What about the cultists?
Hmmm, i like this one, it would be a pity to leave the cultists to their devices, but i suppose that i can live with it.
I don't think that the noose is necessary but i suppose that it doesn't really hurts.
That's a fair point about the Constables not getting to the Cult until next turn at the earliest. However, I would like to point out that we currently can't tamper with any evidence the Bureau does get, and we likely won't get any additional chances after the Name attack to personally deal with the manuscripts (and sending Names to attack Copper twice in a row seems excessive), so we might as well destroy them now so we won't have to worry about them getting into the wrong hands anymore.
You say that, but i'm pretty sure some will hide and become a thorn.
Which is exactly why we need a systemic approach to the rest of the cult, and not just indiscriminate slaughter via Names. Because one can be an ongoing process, and the other cannot.
uh, good idea actually. We'd roll at a penalty I imagine, but even a low-rank expedition would be nice, and supposedly there's an easy one around.
Because Mareinette would ask pretty please if you don't want to end in my stomach? There's many kinds of deaths, and not all are as good.
There's also this other thing called "I was saying the truth from a certain point of view".There's this fun little thing I like to call "lying". Something Mareinette would be quite good at!
Not necessarily. with Manuscripts we can write a lvl 4 (soon to be 5) manuscript for basically anything we want. the minor books are decent in that they can better fill lower levels, but even so it's fairly situational.
Well, most Names have other actions assigned so they can't lead.I wonder why we'd want to send Comet? As the planner cause his action is easier to part with? Or I guess, who do you have in mind to send for Plan Pittauro?
We can do that, but then we're basically forced to have Biedde as lead and have someone slightly worse (Comet/Rarity) take over the outsider search (in addition to Baldomare and Servants).
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yeah, first Copper, then Manuscripts/leads to Velvet, then Neighnia.
Considering the different levels of risks between Copper assault and Grave expedition, I see no real reason to send Rarity on Copper instead of Graves.
NORMALLY I'd argue that expecting us to accomplish more than one objective in a turn is arrogance.
yeah, my assumption is that the objectives we don't pursue now CAN be pursued next turn if necessary.
We care more about the manuscripts linking us to the cult than about the Inner Circle I think.
fully agreed with this, with the addition that we might be able to do a second expedition next turn to accomplish 3 and 4 if we only get to accomplish 1-2 this turn (or even just 1 in the worst case. I can't imagine us FAILING at our main objective with such a stacked team and a scrying ritual as a starting point).
If they don't have proof against us (the manuscripts) it's not that much of a problem.
yeah, this!
Basically. and I think that if we don't accomplish all 3 main goals together we'd be basically committed to do a follow-up next turn to try and get those. Probably with another scrying ritual to identify where Neighnia and/or the Manuscripts ended up.
this seems perfect to me.
it would take a really low roll for that, but fair enough.
if we pay 60 bits and 1 action there's not going to be any healing roll. If anything we should probably keep the Edge 3 artifact to try and escape if we're somehow attacked and someone reaches us I suppose.
We CAN tamper with things IF we're part of the expedition though.
They should be, since in order for DoA to be both on the assault and the Grave, the Grave expedition would pretty much necessarily take place afterwards.
I don't see why IC Velvet would ask him for help re: Copper, considering she somehow still doesn't know that he's a crime boss.
eh, she's a big princess. Plan for Steppes seems to be to try and get him to visit us so he'll be safe in case something happens in his city.
well, he COULD offer lodgings for the Names, I suppose. I'd rather not involve him though, just in case.
I don't see it much as Catharsis, as I see it as Velvet asking Selene to step up. She accepts what Velvet did, yes. But there is something about seeing it, touching it yourself.
They're in our handwriting.
Interesting idea, but this is wild.
| LORE 1 | LORE 2 | DOA + RARITY (% success) | MAREINETTE + COMET (% succes) | BALDOMARE + COMET (% success) |
| Knock | Grail | 74 (-6) | 80 | 64 |
| Knock | Winter | 92 (+24) | 65 | 68 |
| Forge | Winter | 83 (+15) | 65 | 68 |
| Grail | Winter | 65 (-18) | 83 | 68 |
| Heart | Winter | 87 (+4) | 83 | 77 |
| Lantern | Winter | 81 (-3) | 65 | 84 |
| SH | Heart | 91 (-5) | 88 | 96 |
| Forge | Lantern | 81 (0) | 62 | 81 |
| Forge | Heart | 87 (+7) | 80 | 74 |
| Grail | Lantern | 62 (-19) | 80 | 81 |
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying. This isn't as surgical as I'd like, since the Bureau will start asking how their activities leaked before they even set hoof in Manehattan, and I respect them enough to think they might realize it doesn't add up, even if it would explain why everything is a mess, hiding our activities. I still feel there is more that can go wrong if we try to get fancy by doing things like this or dealing with the inner and outer circle too, or not killing Copper before pursuing our other objectives. After all,
And we have the Bureau to clean up. There needs to be something left for them to find, so we'd rather not have cult lieutenants start evacuating books and artifacts that we'd rather have in their custody. Just make it look like Copper got scared and fled or something, just like the Master did to us.
Good plan! I'm good with all the changes except maybe
DoA: 50(general bonus)+15(Heart artifact 3)=65
No, but I'm looking at total probability of success. It's about the other checks -- DoA will do better than Mareinette on the SH roll, and likely do better on the 3rd check as well.
