Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

AuthorTransient · Monday at 5:18 AM

I see, I see. I imagine hearing that we got hurt did not do wonders for Celestia's health. Should we have Selene scout her dream? I would also be willing to swap out the Baldomare-scry-Windy if we have Selene scout Windy's dream.

Unrelated, slightly miffed that Rarity and Stormchaser have yet to succeed on their Forge and Knock rolls respectively to automatically level up their Lores.

spiderhellian · Monday at 5:52 AM

Pittauro said:
...I wonder if Mareinette chose this because she doesn't know about the Moth plan, or because she thought Velvet is not cruel enough to go for the third option...

Tbh I think Mareinette chose that option because she does indeed view marriage as an "investment and a delight."

OurLadyOfWires said:
Do not gift Baldomare any books, and allow her to leave. (This is the wrong option)

Lmao. Not wrong!

That Celestial scene. Damn. Scary! Let's get that Moth sacrament, and even then, we're on the clock…

Don't want to be forced into All In before we're prepared. But the turns are counting down…

Kai Merah · Monday at 6:33 AM

Oh boy. We're real close to Glory. But we're also real close to Daybreaker. And odds are that getting blood of the Outsider might kick up enough fuss to alert Daybreaker too. Don't forget, once we get the blood, we also gotta bring it to the Mansus to get to Glory.

Also... Poor Diamond Tiara. I hope she was only drooled on and not... Licked in... Improper places.

Talon Tiger Dino · Monday at 6:50 AM

BritBiscuit said:
I mean it might be that considering we'd be the only Hour we could be considered the Day so out of those 24 hours 3/7 rounded to whole number would be 10 so I guess maybe for 10 hours of the day things would be a bit more grim and painful, kinda like how some people get depressed at night time or something.
I mean if what we became could be called The Week then an easier conversion would be 3/7 days the Wolf is at the wheel.

We wouldn't be the Only Hour. The Wolf still lives, so there'd be at least two Hours. Maybe three if that scarred pony in the dark was the Colonel rather than Biedde.

Sveta08 said:
Every name is aware of... the path. That this is the steps taken by Velvet before Glory.
The Names Velvet befriends will go with her. The ones that she doesn't, won't. They will know that.
They will see Velvet reaching for Glory, without them.
The only ponies that Velvet will be bringing will be Minions and names.

We know what Mareinette wants for her friendship.
And we know she can choose to break free.

We must befriend Mareinette and bring her with us...
Or we must leave her behind. Near our home, with all the Names who would want to stop her with us. With all our allies on hand with us
Where she sees that we do not want to bring her along in our path to Glory.

Where we will leave her behind. At their home, with Velvet's heart. With Velvet's family
...with Silky

And if Velvet does not offer a hoof beforehand...
If Velvet does not extend her hoof in friendship when she is still reaching for Glory.
If Velvet does not offer company and companionships when she is the weaker party.
Why would she think it would change after Glory?

The Names are explicitly not aware of the path Velvet discovered. Baldomare made that very clear when we had our revelation and spilled it to her. If they did know, they'd be gunning for Selene and Celestia right now over our rapidly cooling corpse. Except maybe Biedde, I'm not sure he is capable of deciding to try and make himself equal to the Colonel like that. Mareinette at least would be gunning for a chugging of sweet sweet Outsider Power straight from the tap though.

spiderhellian said:
(…I really want to see her do couples therapy )

She is bad at Couples Therapy. We just saw it after all.

Zxzx24 said:
Oh my can we actually go through the looking glass this turn?

...I don't expect it will be a secret histories roll honestly. The DOA recommended we get knock on us before departing.

The DOA recommended Knock in order to unlock the Sacrament. The QM said it didn't seem likely that Knock would be needed to succeed at the task on the other side, due to its stymieing a Knock Name.

AuthorTransient said:
Unrelated, slightly miffed that Rarity and Stormchaser have yet to succeed on their Forge and Knock rolls respectively to automatically level up their Lores.

Other ponies have a primary and secondary lore, where the secondary always lags behind the primary by a set amount. We'd need a library that can support Level 4 Grail and SH studies to have them advance through passive study at this point.

Greymere · Monday at 6:59 AM

Zxzx24 said:
I mean I said "you know maybe an edge influence won't help with the red church"

I don't expect people to change their minds. I am just stating it for the record.

I mean it might have. But we never got to find out to find out because we borked the very first obstacle.

Okay, all caught up, time to go compose a plan draft. Preliminary thoughts:

Must Do

Forge's Redemption
Knock lesson
DoA Sacrament x 3
Family FO
Cadance (Commissioner FO)
Teach Selene
Mareinette social on Spoiled Rich
Explore the Summit

Would Be Nice To Do

Baldomare Sacrament
Memory of Light
Soothe the nights
Find Neighnia
Find the Windigo jars
Study the Level 4 artifacts and/or Moth book
Scry-scout BtRC, pt3
Locate Windy

Talon Tiger Dino · Monday at 7:10 AM

I forget, are the Bureau Actions part of the 15 Follower Actions, or their own separate pool that gets nested into the Follower Phase for lack of a better place?

Greymere · Monday at 7:15 AM

Talon Tiger Dino said:
I forget, are the Bureau Actions part of the 15 Follower Actions, or their own separate pool that gets nested into the Follower Phase for lack of a better place?

They're separate

Limabot · Monday at 7:15 AM

Greymere said:
SNIP

While I largely agree with your list, Bird already said that using the Commissioner Actions on Cadence would be a redundant waste if we were also doing the Family/Friends Fleeting Opportunity. I personally would rather spend that action on getting a better look at what Eclipse is doing.

Shaper47 · Monday at 7:15 AM

Greymere said:
Must Do

Forge's Redemption

Knock lesson

DoA Sacrament x 3

Family FO

Cadance (Commissioner FO)

Teach Selene

Mareinette social on Spoiled Rich

Explore the Summit

Agree with you on this I totally do.

Not sure about exploring the Summit though that could be dangerous.

Greymere said:
Would Be Nice To Do

Baldomare Sacrament

Memory of Light

Soothe the nights

Find Neighnia

Find the Windigo jars

Study the Level 4 artifacts and/or Moth book

Scry-scout BtRC, pt3

Locate Windy

Disagree heavily on Baldomare's Sacrament and the indulgence of the nights but the rest is ok. Not really the right turn to do most of the stuff though.

Greymere · Monday at 7:17 AM

Limabot said:
While I largely agree with your list, Bird already said that using the Commissioner Actions on Cadence would be a redundant waste if we were also doing the Family/Friends Fleeting Opportunity. I personally would rather spend that action on getting a better look at what Eclipse is doing.

If you would look at my list, you would note that I only have the Family FO option on there and not the friends one for this exact reason

Mostly bcuz like. We already see our Confidants pretty often, narratively speaking. Maybe it would help w/ our other friends, but I don't think it's important to do so except for Cadance.

Greymere · Monday at 7:47 AM

Okay then, plan drafts go! Or, technically, one draft with a minor difference, but whatever.

[] Plan Sacraments!!! - Looking for Windy
-[] (Detectives) Follow Up: Changelings
-[] (Constables) Follow Up: The Gardeners
-[] (Commissioner) Fleeting Opportunity: Cadance
-[] (Grail-Leash) Filthy Rich
-[] (Baldomare-Gift) Edge 6 book
-[] (Baldomare) Offer us Sacrament in the Secret Histories (-1 Velvet AP)
-[] (Mareinette) Honored Guest: Spoiled Rich
-[] (DoA) Knock lesson
-[] (Selene) Soothe the night
-[] (Selene) Spy on Windy via dreamwalking
-[] (Rarity) Take a commission
-[] (Jade) Research the Memory of Light ritual (Stage 1 Progress: 0/100)
-[] Cover your bases (-9 Follower AP, +3 Velvet AP)

[] Plan Sacraments!!! - Looking for Windigos
-[] (Detectives) Follow Up: Changelings
-[] (Constables) Follow Up: The Gardeners
-[] (Commissioner) Fleeting Opportunity: Cadance
-[] (Grail-Leash) Filthy Rich
-[] (Baldomare-Gift) Edge 6 book
-[] (Baldomare) Offer us Sacrament in the Secret Histories (-1 Velvet AP)
-[] (Mareinette) Honored Guest: Spoiled Rich
-[] (DoA) Knock lesson
-[] (Selene) Soothe the night
-[] (Rarity) Take a commission
-[] (Jade) Research the Memory of Light ritual (Stage 1 Progress: 0/100)
-[] Search for and destroy any jarred Windigos still in Manehattan
-[] Cover your bases (-9 Follower AP, +3 Velvet AP)

Going for the Baldomare Sacrament option because I don't have the confidence we'll actually be able to get around to finishing our personal Sacrament anytime soon + not willing to bet on enough people being confidant enough to both vote for max SH Influence and two SH Sacrament actions in a single turn. +3 Velvet AP, because we always need more AP especially since we basically couldn't do anything we wanted to last turn. Leashing Filthy Rich to throw his AP into the maw of Cover Your Bases.

Only difference btwn the plans is that one has Selene stalking Windy in his sleep to find out if he's going to be a threat to us or not, and the other has someone (either Selene or Biedde) trying to track down and destroy any Windigo jars that may still be in Manehattan before they explode.

Edit:

Sveta08 said:
-[] You need somepony to perform "The Calling of Lantern Influence" on Jade
--[] To be performed in Jade's house (up to two-circle rituals)

Fyi Sveta, Influences can only be called on the person doing the ritual. So someone else can't call an Influence for Jade (and tbh I don't think she needs it, she has something like a 84 - 85% average chance of finishing Stage 1 in one shot with her normal stats + the SH3 artifact).

Rafuki22 · Monday at 8:36 AM

Greymere said:
Family FO

Cadance (Commissioner FO)

Cadance FO is redundante with the family FO.

Greymere said:
-[] (Commissioner) Fleeting Opportunity: Cadance

If the intention is to not choose the family FO when the QM has said that it has negative consequences...

Okay, let's organize this, what can be done only this turn? What can/should we leave for latter turns?

Greymere · Monday at 8:38 AM

Rafuki22 said:
Cadance FO is redundante with the family FO.

No it's not. It's redundant with the friend FO. The family FO is separate and I fully intend on taking it.

OurLadyOfWires said:
Commissioner action to "check on Cadance" is a downgraded version of "Checking on all your friends". Doing both will not bring you any bonuses.

Maer · Monday at 8:46 AM

Greymere said:
Fyi Sveta, Influences can only be called on the person doing the ritual. So someone else can't call an Influence for Jade (and tbh I don't think she needs it, she has something like a 84 - 85% average chance of finishing Stage 1 in one shot with her normal stats + the SH3 artifact).

Actually just a bit back the QM gave a new general action that our Lore-aware followers can be used with to give Velvet AOTL's. Someone else can cast an influence for us- we can always ask the obvious and basic next-step question:

@OurLadyOfWires Since you've given our followers the ability to perform an AOTL on our behalf, can we have them boost another follower, like Jade perhaps? To clear up whether this is actually an issue or not.

Greymere · Monday at 8:48 AM

Maer said:
Actually just a bit back the QM gave a new general action that our Lore-aware followers can be used with to give Velvet AOTL's. Someone else can cast an influence for us- we can always ask the obvious and basic next-step question:

@OurLadyOfWires Since you've given our followers the ability to perform an AOTL on our behalf, can we have them boost another follower, like Jade perhaps? To clear up whether this is actually an issue or not.

Yes, other people can cast Attention of the Laws on us (and probably other people) now. That's an entirely separate thing from the Calling of Influence, which explicitly may only affect the pony casting it.

Venerable Ro · Monday at 9:14 AM

Do remember that Jade will refuse to enter that house, and thus cannot participate in any ritual taking place there.

Pittauro · Monday at 11:50 AM

OurLadyOfWires said:
I am pretty sure that is Daybreaker

Remember, Daybreaker is Celestia. She is just angrier, and maybe a little more focused on certain topics. But she is just as smart as, well, herself.

So, if you are Celestia, and you are trapped inside your own mind by a thousand years' worth of addictions, habits, and that pesky "kindness" you trapped yourself into upholding, how would you plan your jailbreak?

Brute force doesn't seem to be working. So, what do you do?

you become the little devil whispering from your own shoulder, of course.

OurLadyOfWires said:
Scandalous.

Alas, the cruelty of how certain words can be interpreted. We might never know what she really meant with that specific and ambiguous phrasing

you damn tease!

OurLadyOfWires said:
"Two" of something is still a plural.

fair. I imagine it COULD in theory go faster, but there's no real reason to push the pegasi that much.

OurLadyOfWires said:
You know, originally AotL summoning was under the rule of "one Velvet action gives you two charges". Since it's the kind of "quick and cheap" thing that warrants more efficiency if you spend actions on.

But I actually really, really like this suggestion.

Your friends are already Lore-mature enough to be able to do this, so why not.

A new "General action" has been created for your followers. You may now spend one Follower Action to gain one AotL for Velvet on one specific Lore (may be picked multiple times).
(This has already been edited into the latest threadmark.)

But please don't "tie my hands" here. If you ask for several AotL, I WILL pick characters who know Lore stuff. So, don't forget your servants don't use the Lores, and that (if you ask for nine AotL) I will have Baldomare casting you that level-one Ritual, while your servants go "search for books" which you hoped Baldomare would have done instead.

Still, again, great suggestion! Thank you for it.

I doubt we'll ask for THAT many AotL, even for Biedde.

I imagine we might go for 4? have it done by Comet, Jade, maybe Rarity, and the free one.

That covers 8 rolls of Edge (as if I remember right an AotL applies to two edge rolls, or a single clash), and it's likely the fight will be over by then one way or the other...

@OurLadyOfWires IMPORTANT, CAN we have confidants (probably Jade or Baldomare seeing as they're the Lantern ones) study low level artifacts then? and how would it work?

It's fairly important to planning, as we have many artifacts that could help in expeditions or rituals, and we really only have the lvl 4 ones that are worth Velvet's time in particular due to scrap gain if we can delegate that.

spiderhellian said:
Oh sweet. Rarity action is free and getting an extra AotL makes Biedde sacrament a lot easier.

I'd go for 3 or 4 total, really. We absolutely have to avoid the worst case scenario of "Velvet gets 2 wounds again and goes to 1 or even ZERO health".

...yes, I know, Biedde is supposed to stop if he brings us to 1 health. BUT WHAT IF HE ROLLS TOO WELL AND DOES TWO DAMAGE AT ONCE?

It's unlikely, but it COULD happen. Imagine something like "Velvet is at 2 health, Biedde has 49 accumulated "progress" to the damage.

Then he rolls 51 over. THERE, that's 2 damage.

Shaper47 said:
-[X] [RARITY] Focus on her work. (Guarantees she will "succeed" on her career roll)

Unnecessary. Rarity is doing well on her job. Bird repeatedly told us he'll warn us if this action is necessary.

We should do Commission for the extra bits, which we need for many things, particularly the very rewarding expeditions we have, but also potentially heart books, Scrying and summoning rituals in the short term future, potentially the winter sacrament (30 actions each...)

...oh, I forgot another question I had for @OurLadyOfWires

Considering that Winter Sacrament is basically an un-aimed use of EiB, does that mean it's still NOT recommended to do more than one per turn, or can we do 3 in the same turn "safely"?

Shaper47 said:
We need two level 3 heart books if we want to use an influence to get to level 4.

That costs a total of 60 bits, 30 bits per level 3 book.

We can definitely afford it.

IF we find them, of course. But yeah, if we can it would be worth it. I don't think this is the right turn for them, though. Maybe the next one?

Kai Merah said:
Oh boy. We're real close to Glory. But we're also real close to Daybreaker. And odds are that getting blood of the Outsider might kick up enough fuss to alert Daybreaker too. Don't forget, once we get the blood, we also gotta bring it to the Mansus to get to Glory.

Also... Poor Diamond Tiara. I hope she was only drooled on and not... Licked in... Improper places.

The implication of the expedition description is to me that the MOMENT we're done with that we'll RUSH to get the blood and go through the Tricuspid.

so I'm not THAT worried about this in particular.

Talon Tiger Dino said:
The Names are explicitly not aware of the path Velvet discovered. Baldomare made that very clear when we had our revelation and spilled it to her. If they did know, they'd be gunning for Selene and Celestia right now over our rapidly cooling corpse. Except maybe Biedde, I'm not sure he is capable of deciding to try and make himself equal to the Colonel like that. Mareinette at least would be gunning for a chugging of sweet sweet Outsider Power straight from the tap though.

To be fair Mareinette might very well be literally unable to go through the Tricuspid.

She is, after all, an Alukite. The Old Laws might stop her from doing that.

Greymere said:
Okay, all caught up, time to go compose a plan draft. Preliminary thoughts:

Must Do

Forge's Redemption

Knock lesson

DoA Sacrament x 3

Family FO

Cadance (Commissioner FO)

Teach Selene

Mareinette social on Spoiled Rich

Explore the Summit

Would Be Nice To Do

Baldomare Sacrament

Memory of Light

Soothe the nights

Find Neighnia

Find the Windigo jars

Study the Level 4 artifacts and/or Moth book

Scry-scout BtRC, pt3

Locate Windy

I'd replace Cadance FO with Friends FO.

Explore Summit is the free mansus point, nothing to say against that except we can't afford a dedicated action so hopefully the single point is enough. If not, maybe next turn we can dedicate an action to it.

I still disagree with Baldomare SH over Personal SH Sacraments, but we've been over that enough.

Honestly I'm not sure I even WANT to scry-scout BtRC 3, we could just send Axe + Biedde + Selene, pile artifacts on them, and let them do it on their own. Scrying is unlikely to change things that much.

Limabot said:
While I largely agree with your list, Bird already said that using the Commissioner Actions on Cadence would be a redundant waste if we were also doing the Family/Friends Fleeting Opportunity. I personally would rather spend that action on getting a better look at what Eclipse is doing.

the FRIENDS one in particular.

Friends and Family are two separate FO actions.

Shaper47 said:
Agree with you on this I totally do.

Not sure about exploring the Summit though that could be dangerous.

eh, probably not more dangerous than our average Mansus excursion. Is the Outsider juicer search, we HAVE to do it.

Greymere said:
If you would look at my list, you would note that I only have the Family FO option on there and not the friends one for this exact reason

Mostly bcuz like. We already see our Confidants pretty often, narratively speaking. Maybe it would help w/ our other friends, but I don't think it's important to do so except for Cadance.

so you don't want to reassure poor Rarity and JADE that yes, you're really fine?

...actually, have we seen Jade at all this turn? We've seen Rarity, FLuttershy, our family... but there's been no mention of Jade that I can remember.

@OurLadyOfWires Did Jade visit us this month? I'm now a bit worried about her.

OurLadyOfWires said:
Current bits: 409 (196 from previous turn, 160 from monthly salary, 53 from Rarity's dividends)

...

WAIT A SEC

we have a LOT of bits.

That is actually enough to do Canterlot Part 3!

I think I'll put it in the plan... draft coming in a bit.

Greymere · Monday at 11:59 AM

Pittauro said:
I still disagree with Baldomare SH over Personal SH Sacraments, but we've been over that enough.

Here's the thing. When are we actually going to have the time to do our own at this point?

This turn, we're focusing on DoA's Sacrament. Next turn, we're probably either going to want to scry for a Level 7 book for Baldomare's friendship quest or have her channel a Lantern Influence so we can study the Moth book (-50 penalty, remember?). So the earliest I can see it being feasible to allocate a Baldomare AP and at least 2 Velvet AP to actually finishing the Sacrament is T23. With the additional risk of burning our reroll early and then having to use up Baldomare's AP again for a fresh Influence for the next turn.

Or, we could just take Baldomare's Sacrament this turn, hit SH5, and get a Sacrament power already. It's not even like her Sacrament is unlikely to be interesting! Bird's all-but-stated before that her Sacrament will let us find out more about the history of the setting, which is something we've only really seen glimpses of through the Doors.

Pittauro said:
That is actually enough to do Canterlot Part 3!

Before you get too excited, remember that it's a Long expedition and will consume all the AP of everyone we send.

Rafuki22 · Monday at 12:04 PM

Pittauro said:
or can we do 3 in the same turn "safely"?

The result would be basically the same even if they happen at different times, 3 endings.

Pittauro said:
That is actually enough to do Canterlot Part 3!

Technically we aren't in a hurry, technically, we could do it next turn just in case, but if it wins i will not complain.

Greymere said:
So the earliest I can see it being feasible to allocate a Baldomare AP and at least 2 Velvet AP to actually finishing the Sacrament is T23.

I don't really have a problem with that, although i don't think it will come to that.

Shaper47 · Monday at 12:05 PM

Pittauro said:
We should do Commission for the extra bits, which we need for many things, particularly the very rewarding expeditions we have, but also potentially heart books, Scrying and summoning rituals in the short term future, potentially the winter sacrament (30 actions each...)

Commission means she fails her job roll and besides it's pretty stressful for her. After doing one commission recently and the stress of her beloveds condition. Well I don't think it's wise to add more.

Besides we've got enough bits to last us this turn so we can have her do it next turn.

Pittauro said:
It's unlikely, but it COULD happen. Imagine something like "Velvet is at 2 health, Biedde has 49 accumulated "progress" to the damage.

I'm pretty sure he can control himself so that he does accidentally put her on zero health.

He is a Name afterall.

Pittauro said:
IF we find them, of course. But yeah, if we can it would be worth it. I don't think this is the right turn for them, though. Maybe the next one?

It only costs one follower action. That's affordable and best done sooner rather then later.

Pittauro · Monday at 12:09 PM

Greymere said:
This turn, we're (probably) focusing on DoA's Sacrament. Next turn, we're probably either going to want to scry for a Level 7 book for Baldomare's friendship quest or have her channel a Lantern Influence so we can study the Moth book (-50 penalty, remember?). So the earliest I can see it being feasible to allocate a Baldomare AP and at least 2 Velvet AP to actually finishing the Sacrament is T23.

Greymere said:
Before you get too excited, remember that it's a Long expedition and will consume all the AP of everyone we send.

...Damn, we absolutely NEED Axe's lesson this turn...

...unless we studied the book for knock instead? In that case we COULD afford sending Axe, Biedde and maybe Selene...

I need to think a bit about it.

We could get Baldomare to give us a Lantern influence NOW and do 2 study actions, for Winter 4 artifact, Lantern 4 artifact, Knock 5 book, Moth 5 book and Manehattan expedition book.

of course that means giving up something else in Velvet's action list... I suppose we could IN THEORY delay Forge Redemption, but I don't really want to, as we're likely to go for Moth Sacrament next turn and I want to see if discovering the trauma affects that in any way.

Rafuki22 said:
Technically we aren't in a hurry, technically, we could do it next turn just in case, but if it wins i will not complain.

It's thus far the most "complex" expedition we've seen. It's likely to have really powerful artifacts and books, which we could use both to raise our lores AND to get more tools for the ALL IN expedition...

but yeah, we might not be able to afford it this turn.

Maybe Tall Tale would be better, with Part 3 Canterlot next turn... We usually completed all expeditions in 60% of the time expected (and 40% for grave), so if the trend holds instead of 140 or 210 bits for it we'd likely only spend 84 or 128 bits... though we might just not have the Names available this turn.

I need to check a few things before posting a draft.

Shaper47 said:
Commission means she fails her job roll and besides it's pretty stressful for her. After doing one commission recently and the stress of her beloveds condition. Well I don't think it's wise to add more.

Besides we've got enough bits to last us this turn so we can have her do it next turn.

She hasn't done commission last turn. She has only done ONE thus far, a couple turns ago. It's fine.

failing her job is irrelevant, she needs to fail for 3 turns in a row for things to go bad for her, and we've been repeatedly told Bird will warn us if that becomes a possibility.

and with all we have to do, more bits are always welcome.

DelightedOne · Monday at 12:11 PM

Wow, a lot of things happened.

Daybreaker is trying Diplomacy with Celestia to get out... I hope she fails, I also hope Selene's Winter Realization keeps Daybreaker down for a little longer. The Lantern 1 was expected so no surprises there.

The plans sound good(and not just because of A Memory of Light) so I probably won't write anything for the Follower Phase.

Pittauro said:
That is actually enough to do Canterlot Part 3!

I think I'll put it in the plan... draft coming in a bit.

I think it's best to befriend the Daughter of Axes first since she is our best asset for expeditions(and we will get a Knock Sacrament too). That also means at least 1 more turn of bits, so we could send more followers or at least scry the expedition.

Shaper47 · Monday at 12:16 PM

Greymere said:
When are we actually going to have the time to do our own at this point?

Greymere said:
So the earliest I can see it being feasible to allocate a Baldomare AP and at least 2 Velvet AP to actually finishing the Sacrament is T23

???

Are you forgetting that Velvet has 7 AP.

That's enough for 3 DoA Sacrament AP, 2 SH Sacrament , 1 Forge's Redemption and 1 train Selene AP.

So yes we can do our Sacrament next turn.

Rafuki22 · Monday at 12:37 PM

Shaper47 said:
That's enough for 3 DoA Sacrament AP, 2 SH Sacrament , 1 Forge's Redemption and 1 train Selene AP.

The SH Sacrament is dangerous so i would prefer having the safety of a re-roll and just do 1 this turn, but i suppose that would be delaying things...but it is risky...

Edit: It is also leaving out all FO...

Shaper47 said:
So yes we can do our Sacrament next turn.

You mean this turn?

Edit: And if we want the Lantern and Grail Sacrament we should invest in a prison in turn 22.

Greymere · Monday at 12:37 PM

Pittauro said:
...Damn, we absolutely NEED Axe's lesson this turn...

...unless we studied the book for knock instead? In that case we COULD afford sending Axe, Biedde and maybe Selene...

I need to think a bit about it.

We could get Baldomare to give us a Lantern influence NOW and do 2 study actions, for Winter 4 artifact, Lantern 4 artifact, Knock 5 book, Moth 5 book and Manehattan expedition book.

of course that means giving up something else in Velvet's action list... I suppose we could IN THEORY delay Forge Redemption, but I don't really want to, as we're likely to go for Moth Sacrament next turn and I want to see if discovering the trauma affects that in any way.

Friends FO is the most droppable if we check on Cadance using our commissioner action. Just saying.

Think of all the tasty scraps and an expedition site!

I would say still get the Knock scrap from DoA though even if we do go the Lantern Influence route. Knock 5 book can be saved as an emergency Baldomare refresh in case we don't have time to both find and obtain a Level 7 book for her.

Pittauro · Monday at 12:42 PM

Greymere said:
Friends FO is the most droppable if we check on Cadance using our commissioner action. Just saying.

nah, Uncle Steppes is the most droppable. I care more about our friends.

Jade is prone to worry too much, and Rarity will likely be a bit stressed by the Commission. I imagine the FO with them would help.

Also hey, catching up with Fluttershy, maybe it will narratively speed up her relationship with Comet

Greymere · Monday at 12:43 PM

Pittauro said:
nah, Uncle Steppes is the most droppable. I care more about our friends.

Calling Steppes the most droppable implies that he was even on the table in the first place

Edit:

Rafuki22 said:
Edit: And if we want the Lantern and Grail Sacrament we should invest in a prison in turn 22.

Why? Just do Baldomare's Lantern Sacrament. No prison required, and we'll more likely than not never have to deal with penalties on deciphering rolls again. And even if we wanted to do Mareinette's Grail Sacrament, we're at 0/4. It's basically a non-issue right now.

Venerable Ro · Monday at 1:07 PM

Greymere said:
Calling Steppes the most droppable implies that he was even on the table in the first place

Surely "reassure your family" would fold Steppes in, he is family, no? @OurLadyOfWires?

Or, imagine if the Steppes FO is something along the lines of "So I've been thinking it's time for me to retire..."

Venerable Ro · Monday at 1:10 PM

Pittauro said:
Also hey, catching up with Fluttershy, maybe it will narratively speed up her relationship with Comet

We should make sure to give them the almighty Heartifact, it'll speed up Comet's recovery. And besides, a brave wounded warrior, a devoted nurse, a secluded cottage...

[HEART!]

Greymere · Monday at 1:15 PM

Venerable Ro said:
We should make sure to give them the almighty Heartifact, it'll speed up Comet's recovery. And besides, a brave wounded warrior, a devoted nurse, a secluded cottage...

[HEART!]

Why not, it's not like we need it this turn!

Pittauro said:
We could get Baldomare to give us a Lantern influence NOW and do 2 study actions, for Winter 4 artifact, Lantern 4 artifact, Knock 5 book, Moth 5 book and Manehattan expedition book.

Hmm...

I do think I like this idea actually. Gets the higher-level artifacts studied, gets us our last Moth scrap, puts us one scrap away from Lantern Sacrament, and gets us an expedition site to throw DoA at next turn (assuming we get the Frangiclave this turn; if not, then ig Mareinette could handle it). Not the Knock book though, that should stay in storage as emergency Baldomare refresh. And having the Lantern 4 artifact studied means that next turn Selene can take over scrying for the Level 7 book while Baldomare gives us Sacrament either directly (hers) or indirectly (SH Influence for personal).

[] Plan Lightcatcher
-[] (Detectives) Follow Up: Changelings
-[] (Constables) Follow Up: The Gardeners
-[] (Commissioner) Fleeting Opportunity: Cadance
-[] (Grail-Leash) Filthy Rich
-[] (Baldomare-Gift) Edge 6 book
-[] (Baldomare) Channel a Lantern Influence
-[] (Mareinette) Honored Guest: Spoiled Rich
-[] (DoA) Knock lesson
-[] (Selene) Soothe the night
-[] (Selene) Spy on Windy via dreamwalking (or Windigos, either one)
-[] (Rarity) Take a commission
-[] (Jade) Research the Memory of Light ritual (Stage 1 Progress: 0/100)
-[] Cover your bases (-9 Follower AP, +3 Velvet AP)
-[] (Other) Lend Comet the Heart 3 artifact for this turn, if he's willing

Keeping basically everything else the same though, at least for now.

Assumes that Velvet's phase actions will look something like the following:

Explore the Summit (Free Mansus)
Teach Selene (Free Social)
Forge's Redemption
DoA Sacrament x 3
Study x 2: Moth 5 book, Manehattan book; Lantern 4 artifact, Winter 4 artifact
Family Fleeting Opportunity

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Expedition Probe from SV

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Experienced.

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Versed in the lewd.

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