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Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

I mean he is a businessman isn't he? So maybe Edge? Forge could fit him too if we go by the rule that Forge adepts need to be rich if they want to make anything that is worth the time of a Forge Hour.
He could just as easily be Grail for making business deals, or Morh if he tends towards shady deals that he likes to keep hidden, or Lantern if he's scrupulously honest. Heck, Money even has Knock aspect in the Exile IIRC since it can be used to open all kinds of doors.

You can shove basically any job into at least a few different Lores if you try hard enough.
 
Heart Grail I'd say, both are the diplo Lores in CS and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy to have Grail major.
That said, give Selene an Edge influence, and she could reach +90. That's enough that, with the rerolls and some AotL bonuses she might actually even win, if it came down to it.
In any fight against Celestia that isn't sudden she'd probably be heading in with at least Biedde as back up so short of consecutive nat 1s that's a win right there.
 
On another note, I kinda wish we got to see the opposing attempts to summon DoA. Would have been very funny if they succeeded, and maybe even beat us, but the Key just said "fuck you."

Actually, I do wonder just how much was sacrificed for something practically doomed to fail.
 
@OurLadyOfWires not sure if you just missed this ping or decided not to answer, but yeah.
Oh, I think I definitely missed that ping. Thank you for pointing it out.

And to answer it, we'll see how it goes.

but it feels a bit... Stale? Compared to earlier.
"I don't like it" is an important indicator to receive from readers. But it's not really something I can act upon. So, and I really mean it, I would be delighted if you could elaborate on it.



I think that was the only ping. So, time to close the vote.

Edit: and to make it abundantly clear. VOTING IS NOW CLOSED
(And as always, I would appreciate if someone double-checked with their tallies to see if it is right)

Vote Tally : Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience | Page 69 | Questionable Questing [Posts: 2124-2408]
##### NetTally 4.0.2

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 13

[X] Plan Sacrament
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) SH3, for The calling of an influence
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] "The proper things, in the proper manner, in the proper order. God help us all." (Perform a Ritual)
--[X] "The calling of Influence" (Secret Histories)
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X][MANSUS] Tarrying in the Wastes is always a poor idea… but there is no other way to discover what this place holds. (Search for a new area)
-[X] These are the skills that allow you to climb the Mansus. (Actions towards your possible Sacraments)
--[X] Attempt, even if foolishly, to untangle the webs of the Secret Histories
---[X] Investigate your current skills. To try to understand them, if nothing else. (Current progress 1/3) (THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTION)
No. of Votes: 9


[X] Plan Mapping the Wastes
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus (x2)
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes (3x)
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
--[X] Any overflow from exploring the Ashen Wastes should go to finding a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 8

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairwells
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

[X] Plan Wake and Dream
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 2

[X] Plan A Better Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Edge 2 (-1 AP)
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Edge 2 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan A Costly summoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 4
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 4 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich (RotT for lvl 6 book search instead if Jade fails her action)
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan Bright Mare Hired
-[X] (AotL) Edge(Comet Feet)
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about our reputation and how to make a more positive impression aka how to make sure ponies don't think we are a monster again(but not with those words)
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan Business and Light without Comet
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Talk to Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan Business and Opportunities with Edge
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan Plan Betterer Biedde
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan the most Charming Mare.
-[X] (AotL) Heart
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] Summon Biedde
-[X] Summon A Mare in the Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Leash Filthy Rich.
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
No. of Votes: 1

[X] Plan Wake and Dream Old Ver.
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1


Total No. of Voters: 30

Also, all the discussion about using Names of the Mansus to run a... racketeering-slash-casino operation is hillarious.

Hope you are all doing well! I'll take a while to storyboard how this turn will look like.
 
Also, all the discussion about using Names of the Mansus to run a... racketeering-slash-casino operation is hillarious.
Well, that only came up briefly. I think we were more focused on pulling a series of smash and grabs/murder spree to destroy a criminal organization and enrich ourselves in the process.

Besides, it's better if they bring in money than continue to drain our coffers at every turn. They owe us. :V
 
Not untrue. And now that we have a winning plan, I think you're all gonna like Biedde's "please stay" requirements :V

As long as the summoning succeeds, of course. No Edge re-roll is a bit of a bitch.

And on another note, I am honestly surprised Biedde-summoning won. I truly thought you would put it off for another turn. Maybe because scouring Canterlot would be invested in, or maybe because this "no crises" turn would have you farming something else.

Still, I'm glad we will have murder grampa!
 
Not untrue. And now that we have a winning plan, I think you're all gonna like Biedde's "please stay" requirements :V
…On the one hand, when you say stuff like that, it's usually entirely sarcastic. On the other, I could see you subverting our expectation by actually making it either pretty easy, or something we were planning to do anyways. I'm half expecting it to be either actually murdering someone in a fight, or dealing with the Worms somehow.

…Wait. Wait no. Don't tell me Biedde is gonna go full highwayman and literally just extort flat out money to stay.
 
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"Oh great knowledgeable mare, we beg of you, won't you grace us with your continued presence and grant us knowledge both magnificent and malign?"

"Fifty bits and I'll think about it"
Biedde is a stallion, not a mare. But good god that would kill us. I mean, the guy is both a highwayman and a soldier. A steady paycheck could legitimately be something he's interested in.
 
I'm half expecting it to be either actually murdering someone in a fight, or dealing with the Worms somehow.
Dealing with the Worms is something all Names want so it is not likely. I can imagine all the Names we summoned partying in Velvet's home at the end when she does that and they just going "Can I live here now?" if that could get their friendship.

Killing a Manticore(or anything related to the Lionsmith), getting him a student to pass on the teachings of the Colonel, finding his Dyad(in that case, yay one more Name), finding his Blade, killing Mareinette(she is a criminal after all), dealing with rebels... That is all I can think of at the moment

I'm just imagining how he would act in the service of a scarred mare who is on the edge(pun intended) of level 5 asking for his Sacrament, while she is the head of the secret police.
 
Oh, I didn't mean dealing with the Worms completely. More like, killing one of the little ones in the Dreamlands or something as a show of strength or something. Those other ones do make sense though.

Imagine if both parts of the Dyad were just "have the other guy summoned."
 
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Oh, I didn't mean dealing with the Worms completely. More like, killing one of the little ones in the Dreamlands or something as a show of strength or something. Those other ones do make sense though.

Imagine if both parts of the Dyad were just "have the other guy summoned."
Oh. I don't think a mortal is someone qualified to be even close to a Worm and Biedde has been guarding the Worm Museum for an era so he understands the danger they represent, Velvet being infected would be the most likely result and that wouldn't end well for anyone.

Besides that, strength isn't what Biedde is after. He is a Name of the Colonel, what he wants is cunning.
 
Oh. I don't think a mortal is someone qualified to be even close to a Worm and Biedde has been guarding the Worm Museum for an era so he understands the danger they represent, Velvet being infected would be the most likely result and that wouldn't end well for anyone.

Besides that, strength isn't what Biedde is after. He is a Name of the Colonel, what he wants is cunning.
Mm, fair.

…Does Velvet even qualify as Cunning? I mean, she's in a kinda disgustingly high position of power with very useful connections, but that honestly happened mostly by accident. :V
 
Not untrue. And now that we have a winning plan, I think you're all gonna like Biedde's "please stay" requirements :V

As long as the summoning succeeds, of course. No Edge re-roll is a bit of a bitch.

And on another note, I am honestly surprised Biedde-summoning won. I truly thought you would put it off for another turn. Maybe because scouring Canterlot would be invested in, or maybe because this "no crises" turn would have you farming something else.

Still, I'm glad we will have murder grampa!

It surprised me too. It was not the most popular opinion at the start of the voting for turn 19.

On this note, I don't think I ever asked, but... why did you decide that edge 4 does not give rerolls outside of combat (though there it's every six clashes instead of once per month)? It's a fairly significant difference compared to all other lores.

in any case, hopefully the "please stay" requirements are not that bad :V

…Wait. Wait no. Don't tell me Biedde is gonna go full highwayman and literally just extort flat out money to stay.
No! NOT BITS!

OUR ONE TRUE WEAKNESS (other than AP/Time!)

Oh. I don't think a mortal is someone qualified to be even close to a Worm and Biedde has been guarding the Worm Museum for an era so he understands the danger they represent, Velvet being infected would be the most likely result and that wouldn't end well for anyone.

Besides that, strength isn't what Biedde is after. He is a Name of the Colonel, what he wants is cunning.
To be fair it's not quite clear exactly HOW dangerous the "minor" worms in the dreamlands are.

It's possible that Velvet could indeed defeat one. Luna and Celestia destroy them with their passive presence, and while their powers are of a different nature we can in theory reach their level of combat prowess, if barely (+69 with edge 4 and tier 4 influence, with rerolls each turn, compared to Selene's "standard" +50 and rerolls at full training, Celestia's +80, and Selene's + 90 when with an edge 4 influence)

Problem is there's MANY around in there.

Mm, fair.

…Does Velvet even qualify as Cunning? I mean, she's in a kinda disgustingly high position of power with very useful connections, but that honestly happened mostly by accident. :V
shhhh!

It was ALL according to plan. Ask Copper, she'll confirm it!
 
To be fair it's not quite clear exactly HOW dangerous the "minor" worms in the dreamlands are.

It's possible that Velvet could indeed defeat one. Luna and Celestia destroy them with their passive presence, and while their powers are of a different nature we can in theory reach their level of combat prowess, if barely (+69 with edge 4 and tier 4 influence, with rerolls each turn, compared to Selene's "standard" +50 and rerolls at full training, Celestia's +80, and Selene's + 90 when with an edge 4 influence)

Problem is there's MANY around in there.
… Ha.

"Find a way to permanently kill a Worm."

Not, mind you, actually do the killing. Just find a way for it to happen. Because, you know, getting rid of the Museum might let him turn more of his attention to the Wake, right? :V
 
… Ha.

"Find a way to permanently kill a Worm."

Not, mind you, actually do the killing. Just find a way for it to happen. Because, you know, getting rid of the Museum might let him turn more of his attention to the Wake, right? :V
Why Biedde old pal, we have such good news for you!

Let me introduce you to our sweet darling daughter Selene!
 
Yeah it's sort of a surprise! If we were going to summon Biedde, we probably shouldn't have assigned a current follower to guarding..?

But I am very excited to learn more about him. That's going to be the best part of the summons.
 
To be fair it's not quite clear exactly HOW dangerous the "minor" worms in the dreamlands are.

It's possible that Velvet could indeed defeat one. Luna and Celestia destroy them with their passive presence, and while their powers are of a different nature we can in theory reach their level of combat prowess, if barely (+69 with edge 4 and tier 4 influence, with rerolls each turn, compared to Selene's "standard" +50 and rerolls at full training, Celestia's +80, and Selene's + 90 when with an edge 4 influence)

Problem is there's MANY around in there.
...


It is a Worm. If even one of those not-things get in the Wake it is game over for us unless Harmony acts.

Luna is an Alicorn and the Dreamlands are her realm. Velvet even trying to kill a Worm would be a joke 10.000x funnier than Discord learning how to not create Chaos.

Why Biedde old pal, we have such good news for you!

Let me introduce you to our sweet darling daughter Selene!
Now that you mentioned it, can Selene climb? Like, would Velvet even tell her about the Mansus and how to get there when the Ashen Wastes and the Wolf are a thing, and the other stuff in there too.

I would rather have her reach level 4 before we make her go beyond the Branding Door.
 
Yeah it's sort of a surprise! If we were going to summon Biedde, we probably shouldn't have assigned a current follower to guarding..?
I mean, he would probably be better at it, but now we can either get an Edge Influence or send him out on the offensive instead. I'm not sure which would be better for any of those between him and Marinette, who probably ended up as the one assigned to guarding.
 
-snip
Now that you mentioned it, can Selene climb? Like, would Velvet even tell her about the Mansus and how to get there when the Ashen Wastes and the Wolf are a thing, and the other stuff in there too.

I would rather have her reach level 4 before we make her go beyond the Branding Door.
I would doubt it.
Could she? Yes. But the same could be said about Fluttershy. Of course she could climb.
But it is simply not in who they are to do that.
 
the way you whippes u-I mean helped us during the searches
Forgot to post after clicking quote.
I assumed that is supposed to be "whipped" not "whippes"?
Killing a Manticore(or anything related to the Lionsmith), getting him a student to pass on the teachings of the Colonel, finding his Dyad(in that case, yay one more Name), finding his Blade, killing Mareinette(she is a criminal after all), dealing with rebels... That is all I can think of at the moment
Or he looks at the Lunar Bureau and nods approvingly.
THAT is how a Colonel Name with Moth likes to see people act.
The stay requirement:
Have a success with the Bureau while he is summoned. With an escalating definition of success each lengthening.

I would doubt it.
Could she? Yes. But the same could be said about Fluttershy. Of course she could climb.
But it is simply not in who they are to do that.
Dunno, if she thinks it a necessity to keep deal with *gestures vaguely at worm issues and almost-dawnbroken Celestia*?
That could be quite the motivation.
 
Her Lores are pretty good for getting there too, IIRC. On the other hand, she would have to inherently want Glory at least a little bit, and I'm not sure she does yet.
 
…Wait. Wait no. Don't tell me Biedde is gonna go full highwayman and literally just extort flat out money to stay.

Put him on the Lunar Bureau's payroll. Boom, done, easy. He'll whip our constables into better shape just by existing.

... Having Selene climb to the Worm Museum to potentially kill the worms there... It's an interesting thought.

One that I have brought up a number of times before and am eager to see.
 
Put him on the Lunar Bureau's payroll. Boom, done, easy. He'll whip our constables into better shape just by existing.
Velvet shows up to the family day with Biedde in tow. "This is my great grandpa Velvet Blade."

Cue a bunch of people muttering under their breaths about "holy shit, she's the nice one." :V

After all, it's always good to remember that Velvet is straight up a mafia princess who just never realized it.

…Huh. You know, I was actually trying to remember what Biedde was supposed to mean—an in-universe theory suggests it's a bastardization of the Arabic word for mosquito—but putting it into Google actually brought up a hilarious "coincidence" that doesn't actually seem to be mentioned in canon CS, but…

The word Bide, means to wait for something. To remain in a particular place. I wonder why? :V
 
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Her Lores are pretty good for getting there too, IIRC. On the other hand, she would have to inherently want Glory at least a little bit, and I'm not sure she does yet.
Well there might be ways to just let her into the room the Name desires. Like an inverted summoning of sorts.
 
Well there might be ways to just let her into the room the Name desires. Like an inverted summoning of sorts.
On the one hand, the Master did exactly that when he pulled the entire fucking cult into the Woods that one time. On the other hand, they were the Woods, so that might not be something any old Name can just do. And even if it is, Biedde might be the one Name who can't afford to do something like that since it would probably take a good amount of focus and effort, especially on an Alicorn. Perhaps more than he can spare, given his current duty.

No reason we can't at least ask though.
 
On the one hand, the Master did exactly that when he pulled the entire fucking cult into the Woods that one time. On the other hand, they were the Woods, so that might not be something any old Name can just do. And even if it is, Biedde might be the one Name who can't afford to do something like that since it would probably take a good amount of focus and effort, especially on an Alicorn. Perhaps more than he can spare, given his current duty.

No reason we can't at least ask though.
And there was also the whole Moth 7, Everything else 5 the Master had, if that didn't help him then the Wolf is a cute puppy.

Biedde had orders to stay guarding the Museum didn't he? If we make it so these orders don't apply anymore is that a good thing or are we taking away the last bit of structure he had or worse he gets interested in the Wake like Mareinette is and tries to get his own Edge cult.
 
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