Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

[Iustus Vitea]

I think the Moth ascension in the game makes it so you stay in the Woods, does that count?

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In that one you become a Carapace Cross rather then a Long, others have done it before us. Strathcoyne is implied to have awakened his lineage. Sulochana most likely also ascended like we did.

There's also whatever the hell the Balance ending turns you into. Though in that case you stay in the House of the Moon rather than the House of the Sun.

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We were too balanced between Heart and Moth and so belonged to neither. Thus we went somewhere where someone who belongs nowhere goes, to shelter in the House of the Moon where others like us are. That we will serve the mirror self of the Wheel when it returns as it's Aspect was probably the proto Moth/Heart and had servant Carapace Cross is personal headcanon.

 

[Greymere]

Sulochana most likely also ascended like we did.

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Nah, she explicitly states that she eventually chose a different path than the Dancer did, iirc.

 

[Pittauro]

Hey, I'm sure Bird can grow tired of constantly throwing escalating threats our way eventually! Right? Right?

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...and then, after reaching Glory and Becoming THE Hour, we're introduced to this nice multiversal conflict, and now have to fight Against the Outsider Invasion, Displaced Hours and Names from a fallen Mansus of another Reality who barely escaped from the Worms...

 

[angelsadvocate666]

...and then, after reaching Glory and Becoming THE Hour, we're introduced to this nice multiversal conflict, and now have to fight Against the Outsider Invasion, Displaced Hours and Names from a fallen Mansus of another Reality who barely escaped from the Worms...

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…The worst part is, there are elements of the MLP setting that would make that believable.

 

[Iustus Vitea]

Nah, she explicitly states that she eventually chose a different path than the Dancer did, iirc.

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I thought that was to imply her being an Alukite?

 

[Pittauro]

…The worst part is, there are elements of the MLP setting that would make that believable.

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oh, sure.

particularly if we go with the comics. To start with, There's Discord's crazier and eviler and FAR stronger ex-girlfriend.

Then there's other timeline's versions of Daybreaker, Nightmare Moon, The Pony of Shadows, Sombra and so on.

There's the Umbrums, basically evil shadow-ponies (Sombra is one in the comics) which Might actually work in this quest as sapient-worms, honestly.

and then... well, I vaguely remember there's a crossover comic with the transformers, actually...

 

[angelsadvocate666]

Honestly I was thinking more of the Mirror world—though I think Bird said he wasn't gonna use that—and Starlight Glimmer's time shenaniganry. Though that might just be a Histories thing.

 

[Bakkasama]

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde

I am kind of sad that most plans don't really advance our goal to reach glory directly (be it by locating an outider or how to harvest their blood) but I will content myself with the thought that we will likely call an Edge influence and the mental image of Velvet trying to earn the Bureau influence with family day and then attending with an Edge 4 mantle.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

We got really unlucky in that the first turn a search for the Outsider is possible is also the first turn basically everybody wanted Baldomare to scry for Frangiclave.

But yes, Edge high Velvet socialing is a very funny image. At least the Bureau is probably full of Edge people anyways.

 

[Pittauro]

by the way, voting should be over in 30 minutes.

Spoiler: Tally Results

Vote Tally : Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience | Page 69 | Questionable Questing [Posts: 2124-2408]
##### NetTally 5.0.6

Task: 【NONE】
— Voters: 30

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 13

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Betterer Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Anjaxis
[X] Bakkasama
[X] F#A#
[X] Greymere
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] Nate700
[X] Pittauro
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Starlit Horizon
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Talon Tiger Dino
[X] Venerable Ro

[X] Plan Sacrament
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) SH3, for The calling of an influence
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] "The proper things, in the proper manner, in the proper order. God help us all." (Perform a Ritual)
--[X] "The calling of Influence" (Secret Histories)
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X][MANSUS] Tarrying in the Wastes is always a poor idea… but there is no other way to discover what this place holds. (Search for a new area)
-[X] These are the skills that allow you to climb the Mansus. (Actions towards your possible Sacraments)
--[X] Attempt, even if foolishly, to untangle the webs of the Secret Histories
---[X] Investigate your current skills. To try to understand them, if nothing else. (Current progress 1/3) (THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTION)
No. of Votes: 9

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Sacrament
[X] Cochimetl
[X] des-pair-2
[X] HellFire666
[X] Limabot
[X] Portec
[X] Potdl
[X] Random Anon
[X] Solace2117
[X] Spacemurica

[X] Plan Mapping the Wastes
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus (x2)
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes (3x)
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
--[X] Any overflow from exploring the Ashen Wastes should go to finding a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 8

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Mapping the Wastes
[X] DelightedOne
[X] Greymere
[X] HellFire666
[X] Pittauro
[X] Solace2117
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Sveta08
[X] Void_510

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 6

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Betterer Biedde (no hubris)
[X] adfadfsadfdsf
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Anjaxis
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Starlit Horizon
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Nevermort
[X] Pittauro
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairwells
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde (no hubris)
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Limabot
[X] Nevermort
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan Wake and Dream
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 2

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Wake and Dream
[X] Greymere
[X] Iustus Vitea

[X] Plan A Better Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Edge 2 (-1 AP)
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Edge 2 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Better Beckoning of Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666

[X] Plan A Costly summoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 4
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 4 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich (RotT for lvl 6 book search instead if Jade fails her action)
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Costly summoning of Biedde
[X] Nevermort

[X] Plan Bright Mare Hired
-[X] (AotL) Edge(Comet Feet)
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about our reputation and how to make a more positive impression aka how to make sure ponies don't think we are a monster again(but not with those words)
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Bright Mare Hired
[X] DelightedOne

[X] Plan Business and Light without Comet
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Talk to Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Business and Light without Comet
[X] Nevermort
[◈] Plan: Business and Light without Comet

[X] Plan Business and Opportunities with Edge
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Business and Opportunities with Edge
[X] Nevermort

[X] Plan Plan Betterer Biedde
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[X] Sveta08

[X] Plan the most Charming Mare.
-[X] (AotL) Heart
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] Summon Biedde
-[X] Summon A Mare in the Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Leash Filthy Rich.
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: the most Charming Mare.
[x] Earth-Destroyer

[X] Plan Wake and Dream Old Ver.
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Wake and Dream Old Ver.
[X] Alan975

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Total No. of Voters: 30

Betterer Biedde is winning

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church

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So, apparently we're taking a minor risk with the scrying ritual for the lvl 6 book, but going heavy on the Biedde summon.

We're also talking with Comet, and if we end up going for the Edge influence... well, that will be a fun talk.

we're also studying the books (as expected), AND exploring the Ruined Church.

Between Ruined Church and Canterlot Part 2 we're likely to get some interesting loot this turn, in terms of reagents, artifacts, maybe a new summon...

Next turn we'll have to see what's our bit situation.


Hopefully we can afford Frangiclave expedition already. If we can't, MAYBE we'll be lucky and we'll be able to afford a second Commission for Rarity? as long as her turn 18 career roll was a success we COULD afford it.

I'd love to be able to summon a Mare or Two too next turn, but Frangiclave comes first, same for lvl 6 book

 

[angelsadvocate666]

Mm, speaking of Edge Influence, I'm also curious to see how the family would react to it. They're mostly Lore aware, so sensing a max Edge Influence around Velvet has gotta be a little wild. Especially after the last couple of Influences she's worn.

 

[Greymere]

as long as her turn 18 career roll was a success we COULD afford it.

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We had her focus on her work iirc, which should be a career autosuccess. I'd be more concerned about the stress than whether or not her career can support it, since it was stated to be very stressful on Rarity.

 

[spiderhellian]

So, apparently we're taking a minor risk with the scrying ritual for the lvl 6 book, but going heavy on the Biedde summon.

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Yes if the RotT roll fails I give you permission to make fun of me until the end of time!

And poor Jade would feel so bad

 

[Talon Tiger Dino]

Can't wait for vote to end and turn writing to begin! I am quite excited.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

Murder grandpa here we come!

 

[Talon Tiger Dino]

by the way, voting should be over in 30 minutes.

Spoiler: Tally Results

Vote Tally : Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience | Page 69 | Questionable Questing [Posts: 2124-2408]
##### NetTally 5.0.6

Task: 【NONE】
— Voters: 30

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 13

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Betterer Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Anjaxis
[X] Bakkasama
[X] F#A#
[X] Greymere
[X] LieutenantSpirit
[X] Nate700
[X] Pittauro
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Starlit Horizon
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Talon Tiger Dino
[X] Venerable Ro

[X] Plan Sacrament
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) SH3, for The calling of an influence
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] "The proper things, in the proper manner, in the proper order. God help us all." (Perform a Ritual)
--[X] "The calling of Influence" (Secret Histories)
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X][MANSUS] Tarrying in the Wastes is always a poor idea… but there is no other way to discover what this place holds. (Search for a new area)
-[X] These are the skills that allow you to climb the Mansus. (Actions towards your possible Sacraments)
--[X] Attempt, even if foolishly, to untangle the webs of the Secret Histories
---[X] Investigate your current skills. To try to understand them, if nothing else. (Current progress 1/3) (THIS IS A DANGEROUS ACTION)
No. of Votes: 9

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Sacrament
[X] Cochimetl
[X] des-pair-2
[X] HellFire666
[X] Limabot
[X] Portec
[X] Potdl
[X] Random Anon
[X] Solace2117
[X] Spacemurica

[X] Plan Mapping the Wastes
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus (x2)
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes (3x)
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
--[X] Any overflow from exploring the Ashen Wastes should go to finding a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 8

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Mapping the Wastes
[X] DelightedOne
[X] Greymere
[X] HellFire666
[X] Pittauro
[X] Solace2117
[X] Steady Gaze
[X] Sveta08
[X] Void_510

[X] Plan Betterer Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Knock 2 Edge 1, SH 1
—[X] Gift used on Knock 2 Edge 1 retroactively
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Knock 2 Edge 1 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairways
No. of Votes: 6

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Betterer Biedde (no hubris)
[X] adfadfsadfdsf
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Anjaxis
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Starlit Horizon
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Nevermort
[X] Pittauro
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde (no hubris)
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Find a new location in the Shattered Stairwells
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
No. of Votes: 5

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Cheaper Beckoning of Biedde (no hubris)
[X] angelsadvocate666
[X] Limabot
[X] Nevermort
[X] spiderhellian
[X] Steady Gaze

[X] Plan Wake and Dream
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 2

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Wake and Dream
[X] Greymere
[X] Iustus Vitea

[X] Plan A Better Beckoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 3, Edge 2 (-1 AP)
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 3 and Edge 2 reagents
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Better Beckoning of Biedde
[X] angelsadvocate666

[X] Plan A Costly summoning of Biedde
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Forge) Edge 4
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about Manehattan, what he encountered there, its neighborhoods, anywhere we should avoid if we were to visit!
—[X] (A little bit of direction if we were to send someone there)
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon Biedde
--[X] Sacrifice Edge 4 and Wrong Key
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
-[X] Social Filthy Rich (RotT for lvl 6 book search instead if Jade fails her action)
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: A Costly summoning of Biedde
[X] Nevermort

[X] Plan Bright Mare Hired
-[X] (AotL) Edge(Comet Feet)
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about our reputation and how to make a more positive impression aka how to make sure ponies don't think we are a monster again(but not with those words)
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Explore the Red Church
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Bright Mare Hired
[X] DelightedOne

[X] Plan Business and Light without Comet
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Leash) Filthy Rich
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X][LEARN] "Unknown Ritual – A Memory of Light" Step one
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Talk to Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] The place where the Mansus was struck. You must explore it.
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Business and Light without Comet
[X] Nevermort
[◈] Plan: Business and Light without Comet

[X] Plan Business and Opportunities with Edge
-[X] (AotL) Edge
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Business and Opportunities with Edge
[X] Nevermort

[X] Plan Plan Betterer Biedde
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[X] Sveta08

[X] Plan the most Charming Mare.
-[X] (AotL) Heart
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] (Steppes) ask what's the general opinion about you and the Bureau among nobles and common ponies alike.
-[X] Summon Biedde
-[X] Summon A Mare in the Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
-[X] Social Filthy Rich
-[X] Leash Filthy Rich.
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: the most Charming Mare.
[x] Earth-Destroyer

[X] Plan Wake and Dream Old Ver.
-[X] (AotL) Grail
-[X] (Steppes) Ask about any rumors and general perceptions of us, Fair Trial, and our respective institutions, among both nobles and the commonfolk.
-[X] (Forge) SH2, for Jade's RotT
-[X] (Social) Level up Jade
-[X] Summon a Mare-in-the-Light
--[X] To be performed on an inconspicuous place, located by Baldomare
-[X] Fleeting Opportunity: Comet Feet
-[X] Study: Forge 3, Forge 3, Mystery Book
-[X] Search Canterlot for the Outsider (Progress: 0/200)
-[X] Explore the Mansus
--[X] Find a new location in the Ashen Wastes
--[X] Explore the depths of the Ruined Church
No. of Votes: 1

Spoiler: Voters

[◈] Plan: Wake and Dream Old Ver.
[X] Alan975

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Total No. of Voters: 30

So, apparently we're taking a minor risk with the scrying ritual for the lvl 6 book, but going heavy on the Biedde summon.

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Very minor risk, Jade has a 6% chance of flubbing the SH roll under this plan.

 

[Steady Gaze]

I was seriously considering teaching Rarity too, really. Then again, more Mansus or Biedde also make a LOT of sense, so I'll live.

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I was considering creating a joke plan where we do all the training actions, to make the serious plans that do training actions seem less aggressive . I may do this when we plan the next turn.

[SH Sacrament – First Step, cd 110]

[Roll: 61 + 14 (Learning) + 40 (Secret Histories Level 4) = 115]

[Success]



[But did you learn anything from it?, cd 100]

[Roll: 25 72 + 14 (Learning) + 40 (Knock Level 4) = 116]

[Knock re-roll used]

[Success]





You have advanced one step towards your Secret Histories Sacrament. The next step will be harder.

Gained one Knock scrap of Lore.

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oh, @Steady Gaze , about acceptable risks for sacrament... well, our current worst case estimate is that the DC goes up by 20 each time, peaking at 150.

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+54 (with reroll).

With Influence, that's +94.

So, at the highest possible DC (150), we need a 56 (and have a reroll).

And if we didn't have a reroll left, we'd likely delay the last sacrament action to the following turn, which means we need another Baldomare influence to assist us.

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Very interesting; thanks for the breakdown! I thought the subsequent Knock roll was required for the sacrament action to succeed for some reason. But I see now that it's just to get a lore scrap.

That reminds me of the calculator from the old thread. As you said, we have +14 (Learning) and +40 (Knock Level 4) bonuses, and given that the influence bonus is +40, we have:

DC	w/reroll w/SH influence	w/o reroll w/SH influence	w/reroll w/o influence	w/o/ reroll w/o influence
110	2.25% fail	15% fail	30.25% fail	55% fail
115	4% fail	20% fail	36% fail	60% fail
120	6.25% fail	25% fail	42.25% fail	65% fail
125	9% fail	30% fail	49% fail	70% fail
130	12.25% fail	35% fail	56.25% fail	75% fail
140	20.25% fail	45% fail	72.25% fail	85% fail
150	30.25% fail	55% fail	90.25% fail	95% fail

So just shooting for the sacrament this turn might still be worth it for some people (>40% chance of success with reroll if the DC equal to or better than the expected worst case) provided the consequences for failing are not terrible. Wasting an action is a known consequence (unless we get a bonus on subsequent attempts; that would be pretty nice). Optimistically, the dangerous Velvets are the only other risk, but pessimistically, Velvet could get lost in space and time or something and lose another action this turn, or take damage, or get stuck in a different history — it would be absolutely wild (in a good way, in the sense that this really is a no guardrails horror quest) if Bird had us start playing the game after having swapped places with a different Velvet, with us desperately trying to get back to "our" history.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

Honestly, the funniest thing about the SH sacrament to me is that it's a roll. Which raises the potential of getting a nat100 on it.

Also a nat1, but that's more horrific than funny.

 

[Pittauro]

We had her focus on her work iirc, which should be a career autosuccess. I'd be more concerned about the stress than whether or not her career can support it, since it was stated to be very stressful on Rarity.

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True, and it makes it not ideal.

But if the 100+ bits Rarity can give us are the difference between being able to afford Frangiclave expedition or not, or even to just be able to add two Mares summons...

well, it might be worth it. We'll see how many bits we have next turn. It's not out of the question we might get bits, or easy-to-sell loot, from the Canterlot expedition.

Even in the CS game you sometimes found stuff that was only good to be sold. And I think we could sell that stuff through Uncle Steppes.

Yes if the RotT roll fails I give you permission to make fun of me until the end of time!

And poor Jade would feel so bad

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eh, it's an acceptable level of risk, and we CAN probably make up for it with other (more expensive) measures.

I wouldn't care much about losing the lvl 6 book if we somehow could get a lvl 5 from one of our other ventures, for example. We'll see how it goes.

Very minor risk, Jade has a 6% chance of flubbing the SH roll under this plan.

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minor risk, but if we fail it's pretty inconvenient. If we still find a lvl 5 book in canterlot or church expedition I wouldn't mind much, but if we don't...

 

[Pittauro]

well, vote is done, Biedde + Comet + Studying books + more reagents + red church (and so on) won.

this turn should hopefully give us plenty good results. Celestia/Daybreaker is hopefully stable enough that we don't need to worry too much about her... or, at least, that Luna should have enough time to finish her training and grow in the fullness of her power before she has to decide on a course of action.


with training complete she'd be at +50 in combat, with a reroll every 6 dice, and 7 health

Celestia should be... 10 health, +80 in combat.

That said, give Selene an Edge influence, and she could reach +90. That's enough that, with the rerolls and some AotL bonuses she might actually even win, if it came down to it.

Though of course ideally we'd avoid that kind of direct confrontation.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

hmm. What's neat about the books is that if we can find the Forge Name at some point, we would be only one manuscript away from making our Library finally have a Level 3. Which doesn't mean much right now, but would be useful if and when we ever want to share it, or get a Forge Confidante.

 

[DelightedOne]

Which doesn't mean much right now, but would be useful if and when we ever want to share it, or get a Forge Confidante.

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Like Applejack? Three Elements are better than two after all.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

Like Applejack? Three Elements are better than two after all.

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She's definitely a possibility. I don't think we ever figured out Filthy Rich's aspects either, though I'm not sure he would just happen to be Forge.

 

[des-pair-2]

I just noticed, shouldn't the Stains Upon Our Soul be 3/6? You know, since Soft Sweeps...

Current Level: 3/7
Should this counter ever reach 7/7, Velvet Covers will immediately reach the ending "The Mother of Wolves".

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Also I noticed

Wolves gnaw

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Why are those letters highlighted? I don't know CS that well so I have no idea why.

 

[Cochimetl]

Why are those letters highlighted? I don't know CS that well so I have no idea why.

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They are the ones that got replaced. It used to say "The Woods grow".

 

[DelightedOne]

I just noticed, shouldn't the Stains Upon Our Soul be 3/6? You know, since Soft Sweeps...



Also I noticed



Why are those letters highlighted? I don't know CS that well so I have no idea why.

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The lucky number seven RA is Soft Sweeps, we just need to activate her first.

It is because of this :

The Wood grows around the walls of the Mansus. As any student of Histories knows, the Mansus has no walls.	"
	~ Christopher Illopoly, Travelling at Night

I think it appears at the very start of the game, the QM just changed it to be Wolf flavoured.

 

[angelsadvocate666]

I just noticed, shouldn't the Stains Upon Our Soul be 3/6? You know, since Soft Sweeps...

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Technically, but from what I recall Bird left it for… thematic purposes or something? It's been mentioned and he just never felt the need or something.

 

[Pittauro]

I just noticed, shouldn't the Stains Upon Our Soul be 3/6? You know, since Soft Sweeps...

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Soft Sweeps was treated as "lowering the max from 7 to 6" instead of raising the current value.

That's because, simply put, she only becomes a "real" wolf daughter once we reach 6/6.

She's going to be the last of the wolf children, AND the only wolf-daughter... if we get that far.

Otherwise, the wolf is sort of "sleeping" in her, and she's not currently "evil".

The dreams imply that, in her sleep, the wolf brothers are tormenting her. I imagine once all 6 of them exist they'll be too much for her to resist.

Why are those letters highlighted? I don't know CS that well so I have no idea why.

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They're what is "changed" from the original quote, and one of the "basic" lessons for any occultist:

The Wood grows around the walls of the Mansus. As any student of Histories knows, the Mansus has no walls

 

[DelightedOne]

She's definitely a possibility. I don't think we ever figured out Filthy Rich's aspects either, though I'm not sure he would just happen to be Forge.

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I mean he is a businessman isn't he? So maybe Edge? Forge could fit him too if we go by the rule that Forge adepts need to be rich if they want to make anything that is worth the time of a Forge Hour.

 

[Nevermort]

Technically, but from what I recall Bird left it for… thematic purposes or something? It's been mentioned and he just never felt the need or something.

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I thought 7th ​regretful action is giving Soft Sweeps a new name. Because in the company of Evil, Ash, Paranoia and the rest Soft Sweeps would sound... weird.