And letting an alukite who has shown no indication of becoming any less of a child-eating monster if we go along with her unknown desires into our inner circle and irrevocably coloring our Grail with one of its worst possible incarnations isn't?
I'd personally be willing to consider it in very specific situations, but... I don't expect it to be relevant, so why would we waste an action on that?
oh, we're already at Biedde's refresh time?Technically it has 105 bits spent but those are all in Velvet Phase or Turn End (its a Forge 3 reagent and Biedde's refresh)
Also there's the 90 bits for Winter Sacrament if we end up taking it, the ? bits we could spend for Forge Sacrament, bits for more scrying rituals, for summoning, for more reagents, for more unlocked expeditions, for lucky/unlucky book finds if we do searches...
Oh, that's a point nobody brought up actually.
it SHOULD go 5-20-45-80.
eh, unless Velvet's become omniscient in the epilogue it might still matter there. And that's if the quest is completely over after Tricuspid.
not my point.
if we only want her as a tank, we might as well summon a couple mares/maids in the mirror instead.
I get it. Right now my inclination is that the Bureau (with Velvet's help) will HOPEFULLY be able to deal with the WIndigoes (maybe prisoners will blab about it, or the bureau will find more intel about them), and Neighnia...
I'm trusting that OurLadyOfWires doesn't do trap options, i doubt that befriending Mareinette will be a Game Over or a Bad Ending.
Based on WoG, yeah, i don't see it, i would say they are cooked, but Windigoes are Winter, so unless Celestia comes to release stress...and even then the collateral...yeah...
It doesn't have to be a Game Over or a Bad Ending to still be a terrible idea I want us to have no part of.
And have him panic, and be more a worry when it inevitably comes out that we need Spoiled for the Moth Sacrament?
It's.... A way of things. Of these old ways.
We are used to a different way, with some charm to it.
You know that we are not going to sacrifice her and we don't need to do so, but assuming that we can't fix it as an Hour, yes, it would, the same as failing to kill Mareinette and her eating Rarity or something wouldn't be a pleasant outcome, but one would be because we decided it, and the other because we gambled and we lost, but you know what those are? Hypotheticals. We don't know what will happen, we can assume the worst but that doesn't mean that it will happen.
Assume all Sacraments attempts need preparation time, like a full-fledged ritual.
Yes.
No. Influences giving you mechanical debuffs is something we abandoned a while back.
It wouldn't make any difference. Both have nonexistent Lore levels, both would only give you +1 follower action. So, all else being equal, Filthy Rich is the better option to leash.
No. Memory of light is a purely theoretical research. Not the kind of thing (like your Forge personal Sacrament) that could use materials.
As a fun aside, there is also, mechanically, absolutely nothing stopping you from having Rarity give Sweetie Belle to Mareinette
You just had to point the harsh truth didn't you?As a fun aside, there is also, mechanically, absolutely nothing stopping you from having Rarity give Sweetie Belle to Mareinette
We're not? We're bringing her close to... the Outsider? We summoned her to the Wake, she is no longer in the Mansus at all, she's not going to the Glory.
Just wanted to make sure! Considering the elephant in the room named "Celestia finding out we know the Lores".
You need to read what the GM said ONLY Befriended Names, and Minions can come along on the trips, mare in the light are not either. This is the GLORY the ultimate enlightenment and godhood. Velvet trusts no mortal with it save people could say kill yourself and they will, or Names that have proven they given up on it, and will support Velvet instead. Mare in the light are a race we don't get repeats upon summoning so we cannot befriend them.
Right, speaking of which, we might want to find a way to get a confidant that VELVET considers a minion, so that we can take to the ALL IN expedition as artifact carrier and HP fodder.As a fun aside, there is also, mechanically, absolutely nothing stopping you from having Rarity give Sweetie Belle to Mareinette
Regarding this paragraph in particular. Non-Name summoned creatures can be taken with you. You are correct that I usually refer to them as "summons", so I see the confusion over the specific wording of "minions". But you may take summons to "All in." as well.
I am a man of harsh truths and good taste
QM said no conditionals.
This plan speaks to me, the only thing missing to me is Jade.
That easy task Mareinette or any name with gathering pawns and minions. They will take them from the desperate the lonely, and the forgotten, that how you get pawns in CS.
The one time the Epilogue came up, it was with an explicit warning involved. Unintended consequences? Sure. I think there are more of those in Mareinette being able to break her bindings any time than Mareinette being our friend.
I also think people are incredibly optimistic about what Memory of Light part one will get us, in this regards. This is the first step. Think about how much we've done for the Glory victory. Then think of how the Harmony victory would not be all that much easier!
Ah, true, then let's fully devote ourselves to DoA and see how it goes from there.
Have her covering bases/visited as a friend.
Sorry, i meant Jade doing the Memory of Light.
You know, between these comments and all the details of how to achieve Glory, it really makes me wonder...
Nah?
And now I don't want Mareinette to befriend the Riches any further, because she'd easily convince them to give over Tiara and I don't think their friendship would reform her. Starting to seem more of a Sombra-type resolution here than a canon Discord one.
As I have pointed out repeatedly the only reason passing the last door and basking in the Glory does not make you an hour instantly is because the existing hours kick you out, actively preventing you from doing that. Hours that are dead, or otherwise busy with trying to die, meaning their nothing preventing Velvet from becoming at least as great as the Sun in Splendor was.
They all are actively monitoring the way to the Glory, for just such an occasion. The Death of an outsider is going to ring their alarms from the Glory down to Nothingness.
That's an interesting point. I wonder if they generally overlap with "power and influence", but certainly a world where we're in the cult this would look wildly different
There would be no Hours but us. No one with the Glory but us. It's a victory.
They haven't even considered that the Blood of an Outsider can be used to open the Lock. The Name of Lantern didn't realize it until she traced the path of our Histories!
I give you a worse scenario: Discord is free because of the chaos that swept through Equestria for the last year, but pretends to be stone.
Invalid Plan, too many Actions. Also the Cadance action is superfluous if you do the FO to reassure Friends, which we will given Jade. Also, we are already at 4/4 Edge Scraps and thus you are wasting Biedde's Action.
They all know the requirements, they lost hope because an age passed without ever finding an outsider. They even knew Discord was an outsider, just one strong enough to fight them off. Had Celestial, and Luna, arrived even just a 1000 early they would not have made to 5 years old, before being killed.
All the name's by viture of reaching such power, are competent and skilled beings, they will have left ways to monitor the way to kill an outsider keep in the manses, and the moment they are tripped they will descend upon Velvet and party. These are not beings that got to their level of power and age by happenstance, but skill and ablity.