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One Rabid Fox changes the Succession Wars [A Battletech Isekai]

Adding medium lasers to things is so boring, but there is such a lack of equipment or weapons in Introtech to use instead.
i mean the thing has medium lasers as is in its default designs. and to be blunt they're good in any mech build. plus its a much more balanced design overall. mind you i don't think the davions will like no autocannons but 2 AC-10s is a bad idea under most circumstances
 
i mean the thing has medium lasers as is in its default designs. and to be blunt they're good in any mech build. plus its a much more balanced design overall. mind you i don't think the davions will like no autocannons but 2 AC-10s is a bad idea under most circumstances
But think of the Dakka! you jump around and go DakkaDakka and enemy is ded. I get it though. PPCs are love. PPCs are life. the main advantage the AC variant would have is just how much cheaper it is to make and field.
 
Honestly the AC variant in just a few engagements is more expensive to field due to Ammo costs are a lot higher than PPC parts and technicians. And the cost of production isn't that much lower.
And then there's the costs of hauling around Autocannon ammo especially if on the offensive
 
i mean the thing has medium lasers as is in its default designs. and to be blunt they're good in any mech build. plus its a much more balanced design overall. mind you i don't think the davions will like no autocannons but 2 AC-10s is a bad idea under most circumstances
Changing over to PPCs makes the mech a Warhammer. Turning everything into an energyboat is the same kind of homogenizing everyone does with Introtech. While understandable, it's boring.

I'd rather see the AC-10s built around. When you get specialist ammo or LBX they become decent enough and every mech isn't PPC+ML+LRM5/SMR6.
 
Changing over to PPCs makes the mech a Warhammer. Turning everything into an energyboat is the same kind of homogenizing everyone does with Introtech. While understandable, it's boring.

I'd rather see the AC-10s built around. When you get specialist ammo or LBX they become decent enough and every mech isn't PPC+ML+LRM5/SMR6.
The point is to field armies of Effective units with Combat Endurance, in high numbers to ensure victory. To hell with boring
 
40MM RAC Hammerhands
RAC Hammerhands
Mass:
75 tons
Chassis: Standard Biped
Power Plant: 225 Fusion
Cruising Speed: 32.4 kph
Maximum Speed: 54 kph
Armor: Standard
Armament:
2 Rotary AC/5
4 Medium Lasers

Communication System: Unknown
Targeting & Tracking System: Unknown
Introduction Year: 3145
Tech Rating/Availability: E/X-X-X-D
Cost: 6,562,500 C-bills
Type: RAC Hammerhands
Role: Brawler
Technology Base: Inner Sphere (Standard)
Tonnage: 75
Battle Value: 1,943

Equipment
 
Mass

Internal Structure
 
7.5

Engine

225 Fusion

10

Walking MP:

3
 

Running MP:

5
 

Jumping MP:

3
 

Heat Sink:

14

4

Gyro:
 
3

Cockpit:
 
3

Armor Factor:

231

14.5
 
Internal
Structure

Armor
Value

Head

3

9

Center Torso

23

35

Center Torso (rear)
 
11

R/L Torso

16

24

R/L Torso (rear)
 
8

R/L Arm

12

24

R/L Leg

16

32
Right Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper, Lower
Left Arm Actuators: Shoulder, Upper, Lower



Weapons
and Ammo

Location

Critical

Tonnage

Jump Jet

LL

1

1

Heat Sink

HD

1

1

Jump Jet

CT

1

1

2 Heat Sink

RT

2

2

Medium Laser

RT

1

1

Rotary AC/5 Ammo (40)

RT

2

2

Medium Laser

LA

1

1

Rotary AC/5

LA

6

10

Rotary AC/5 Ammo (20)

LA

1

1

2 Heat Sink

LT

2

2

Medium Laser

LT

1

1

Rotary AC/5 Ammo (40)

LT

2

2

Jump Jet

RL

1

1

Medium Laser

RA

1

1

Rotary AC/5

RA

6

10

Rotary AC/5 Ammo (20)

RA

1

1
a Hammerhands that uses just RACs as the sole advanced tech in it. Something I bet the Davions would drool over. no fluff since its a Hammerhands and I've posted several builds with fluff attached albeit I might change that later. Let me know what you think.
 
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Sakhara 3.1
Sakhara 3.1
Justin blanched as another DropShip touched down, he had known that his father had been high up in the diplomatic service, but the fact that his family had been able to send mail along with the dropship was the telling factor. He looked at the student council president, his cousin, "Di-"

"Of course I didn't read them." She growled, "I left a letter for my father and I hope to have a response, but I have no idea how long that will take. You are invited to the Prince's New Years Honors by the way, with your cataphract, I should add. The First Prince is very interested in the new designs."

Oh, oh, that was a surprising. She, also, might as well have told him not to fuck up, but he knew that. He'd been about to comment on the Rifleman designs being overhauled, but she saw them as they came into view. "That must be why they were able to just scrounge around for parts then, and assemble from common parts." She muttered, seeing other examples of the several machines in the high visible text colors.

"I like the Rifleman," Henry declared adjusting his scarf as the wind picked up, "We'll introduce them and a few other designs over the next few weeks, but realistically your class needs to be preparing for graduation," before either could protect, though he doubted they would, he decided to head off any claims of that being months away, "and for your duty stations. There will be large scale combined arms actions where I expect your class to interact and operate effectively alongside tanks and airpower." He paused, "Oh look there is Colonel Coleridge, I'd better go see what he wants."

Justin watched him cross the field, "Why do I have a bad feeling about that?"

"I would expect either he means to pit us against the Longswords or he had yet something else in the works." She paused, "What exactly did I miss?"

"We practiced lance on lance... that didn't go well," He replied, "The RAC's mechwarrior component is supposedly cycling back from the periphery soon, from wherever they were, that's about the only rumor to speak of." Justin stretched and racked his hands behind his head walking backwards, "So the longswords?"

She shook her head, "No, that's important I'm sure but the invitation to the prince's honors far outstrips that. The cataphract has the first prince's attention, so you need to make a good impression." She remarked.

Her advice was not grounded in anything other than stating the obvious. The main attraction would be the machine itself, but if he could pilot it well then that would win Justin some acclaim, he certainly could use some positive fame to trade on.

Justin predictably began to protest, "You know, well look," He declared a bit more firmly, "the RAC is starting to deploy Cataphracts like mine, and there isn't any shortage of the smaller engines in the warehouse," He declared deflecting by arguing that his mech was unique... which wasn't the point. Clay had sent a dozen Long swords to New Avalon as bequest., so of course there would have been other examples of the machine, and it was entirely natural that those machines would begin fielding his household guard as such.
--
Clay looked at the class, "So as you are aware my recent absence to New Avalon dealt with the ongoing efforts in BattleMech logistics. We will leave aside the assault class mechs, they are not relevant to today's lecture." There was some grumbling. He tapped the holographic display causing it to unpack into a fusion engine schematic. "This is a Nissan 200 Fusion Engine. It is is one of the more common fusion engines, and can be used to power Assault BattleMechs but is more commonly found powering venerable Medium designs like the Hunchback, the Enforcer, or the Centurion. Never mind when the engine is used to power tanks for the moment, it is the medium mech which is the matter." The engine hologram reduced in size and a battlemech wireframe appeared. "This is a Dorwinion Standard Chassis, the single largest issue with auto cannons is that they require ammunition, and if logistics ships you the wrong ammunition say for another model of auto cannon it does you no good." The Fifty ton Battlemech's representation took an animated step forward. This is arguably my most serious complaint about the Enforcer, and Centurion debate. The Fusilier doesn't carry an auto cannon, it instead mounts two Zeus LRM 15 launchers. It thereby uses the same engine as the Centurion and Enforcer indeed uses other common parts, and highly in my opinion, doesn't add a third auto cannon or weigh in on the auto cannon debate at all, it is an effective fire support platform capable of close range self defense or support." Provided by Four readily available ChisComp model Medium Lasers. "So what is the unique logistical challenge of this mech?"

It was an easy softball question.

The answer was feeding the missile launchers.

While the Star League had never been able to standardize launchers, long range missiles, and their short range counterparts had been standardized. There were many different sorts of launchers but they fired a standard chassis missile.

"The boxes in front of you are notebooks, and range tables, and calculations for how much in the way of supplies units in different conditions on average consume. This a look at operational warfare, not tactical war gaming. This is not a look at tactical engagements but rather the maneuver of company and battalion elements and what it takes to keep them operation over a period of weeks and months."

It was a look at how many trucks you needed, how many trailers carrying how many tons of things other than ammunition. The table detailed estimates on how much food a unit needed, and that varied depending on the environment. How many tankers of water did you need reflected local conditions... and if the atmosphere of a planet was uncooperative things like filters for atmospheric cleaners .

These students, Justin, Alexandria, Don Juan too were all graduating in the spring. They'd be lieutenants soon, and thus needed to have some idea that war really was more than just finding the other guy and shooting him before he shot you. So to acclimate them to operational concerns for their final semester at Sakhara, they were going to be war gaming much longer campaigns.... and what would make this interesting would be in next semester's continuation of this would be that their packets that they'd receive after the return from break would have realistic unit tables.

Their units would reflect the mixed lances, companies, and battalions that were the norm in the succession wars. They would have to account for that, keeping track of individual machines that had individual specific weapons. Position and maneuver were also going to be counted on a map that only showed certain features to the two student 'players', which referees made rulings that might not come into play that session.

--
He was repeating it silently in his head.

Logistics were what won wars. That's the mantra, that's the doctrine, that is the orthodox truth of the 19th​ and 20th​ centuries, it was the truth of pre modern and early modern war. Armies marched on their stomachs then, and the tides of iron needed fuel and ammunition in the 1900s and so needed carrying capacity fr in excess of what their grandfathers had needed. Logistics predated industrial warfare.

To that end, the Enforcer was not something Clay intended to try and replace. It had its niche it was in production and it was set up, so it used different guns, it used enough other common parts that it was fine... the logistical reality of things meant he was trying to rush back to star league era technology.

The Count of Sakhara leaned on the console behind the transparent ferro aluminium window of the observation deck. The consequences of his drive towards logistics were something he hadn't realized... so far as he could observe the scrapping of parts for either their C-bill, or BV cost was irrelevant... what he wouldn't realize until years later was that there was a cost, creating those HPGs and selling them deposited ground mobile hpgs into the inner sphere, or in the periphery, and that that would have consequences.

Consequences he wouldn't start to see for years even.

So the billions of c-bills went towards purchasing the infrastructure to produce engine factories, like for the Nissan 200. He had already told the lawyers they could license out designs to Kallon, to Achernar, to Corean, he'd extend that to GM if it came to it. The 240 engines being assembled in front of him were for aircraft for export, the same for tanks, and the same for battlemech spares. The truth was... the truth was Ian had issued summons to Colchester for General Kerston to visit him on New Avalon.

... Colchester was two jumps from Sakhara. Henry watched the holographic lights unfurl into a stylized 19 on an angry horse. The officer behind him straightened. "I'll allocate you personnel and resources by the 1st​ of the year colonel."

The fight was lost, the story told with truth and lies. Maybe some men had slipped away from the Rim World's total victory, but perhaps only a handful too few to be anything more than walking ghosts of a dying era. They were however still professional soldiers not knights as too many battlemech pilots were. "We'll be ready sir."

"I'll need the company ready for exercises for the weekend." He answered in response, and was met with a positive, confident affirmative.
 
As related to the rifleman upgrads....honestly in its intended mostly support role as a sniper/AA mech it mostly works if with limited endurance and having to pick between AA and normal Ammo. Alas for the suns they lack enough heavy production to use it and the jagermech in primaryly those roles nearly as much as they should.
Hence the otl attempts to make it better and my Rifleman 4P. Which should still be a decent AA mech, if nothing else you can't run it out of ammo via probing attacks and a fair few canon AA mechs rock PPCs

Also surprised the Sentry isn't mentioned at all since it's literally designed with the same frame as the Fusilier and is stupidly logistically easy to support between its quirks and no ammo needs at all.
Albeit I suppose that probably works better for a later lecture to show off the difference between mechs that need ammo and those that don't.
 
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As related to the rifleman upgrads....honestly in its intended mostly support role as a sniper/AA mech it mostly works if with limited endurance and having to pick between AA and normal Ammo. Alas for the suns they lack enough heavy production to use it and the jagermech in primaryly those roles nearly as much as they should.
Hence the otl attempts to make it better and my Rifleman 4P. Which should still be a decent AA mech, if nothing else you can't run it out of ammo via probing attacks and a fair few canon AA mechs rock PPCs

Also surprised the Sentry isn't mentioned at all since it's literally designed with the same frame as the Fusilier and is stupidly logistically easy to support between its quirks and no ammo needs at all.
Albeit I suppose that probably works better for a later lecture to show off the difference between mechs that need ammo and those that don't.
*throws candied apple at bofors*

stop reading ahead bofors
 
*throws candied apple at bofors*

stop reading ahead bofors
I mean I'm pretty much guessing here more than anything else.

Also had a thought. The Sentry in this AU might end up being the modern Crab for the at least the Suns in how much the techs love the things.
Easy to fix, in normal field use needs maintenance and repairs less often and it's easier to pilot so the average mechwarrior likely to be in one won't do minor damage from running it around as often . Oh and it uses commonly available parts including parts for its frame that it shares with multiple platforms (and even more if you consider platforms using slight modifications of that base frame) at least if your in the suns in this period especially in this AU. Probably elsewhere as time goes on as well.
 
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Hoh, that''s gonna be fun, the CHH mechwarriors dealing with SLDF comrades and Spheroid academy folk and spooks. The Davions and the intelligence will likely put together the RAC having similar origins to the WDs once they start comparing any recorded slipups from the Dragoons with the RAC's eccentricities, if they haven't already with the existing tankers.

Ah, Henry's favorite subject, logistics with strats mixed in. *Insert tactics and logisitics quote* and all that, applied to their favored Battlemechs to hammer in its importance. They'll make decent officers at larger scales at least, if they take it to heart, though that also means they'll deal with the headache of having Insight into military supply lines and upkeep.

Ah, so all those MegaMek shenanigans aren't completely being pulled out of and thrown back into the ether. That's interesting. Spreads out the potential for HPG research among the IS without a direct trail leading back to Henry, and the resulting gold rush once they start surfacing will likely keep Com* busy trying to put out the fires for years to come. And if the other components and units being tested in the R&D and used to cycle are leaving remnants as well, that's gonna be a few endangered and extinct tech and designs likely to start coming back to light in holes in the ground, along with "Late Star League prototypes" that are actually future/custom tech.
 
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OH…..oooohhhh, yea cats out of the bag if anyone sees the unit patch for Henry's new troops. I can see spit takes and money exchanging hands soon. As well as any Dragoons who hear about this having one of a couple VERY interesting reactions.
 
Honestly giving his troops a new unit patch to not give up the game is so so stupidly easy to do with some thought
Ditto getting them to work in reinforced companies or standard vs trinaries and stars vs lance.
 
Honestly giving his troops a new unit patch to not give up the game is so so stupidly easy to do with some thought
Ditto getting them to work in reinforced companies or standard vs trinaries and stars vs lance.
I mean yes also this but but neither of you are flat out wrong some parties will obviously lean one way or another but we won't see serious steps in either direction immediately because Henry's troops are [not] mercs and thus not subject to the MRB paper work
 
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I mean yes also this but but neither of you are flat out wrong some parties will obviously lean one way or another but we won't see serious steps in either direction immediately because Henry's troops are mercs and thus not subject to the MRB paper work
Aren't mercs you mean. They're house troops.
Also given the 12th Vegan Rangers are mercs due to there being limits on how many house troops you can have that aren't at least notionally if not outright part of the AFFS Henry probably can't grow them as strictly house troops for that much longer.
 
Aren't mercs you mean. They're house troops.
Also given the 12th Vegan Rangers are mercs due to there being limits on how many house troops you can have that aren't at least notionally if not outright part of the AFFS Henry probably can't grow them as strictly house troops for that much longer.
I meant that they were house troops yes... whats this about limits on house troops size? Where is that from? wouldn't htat have gone out the window when the star league disolved
 
I meant that they were house troops yes... whats this about limits on house troops size? Where is that from? wouldn't htat have gone out the window when the star league disolved
On the sarna page of the 12th vegan rangers. Basically during the 2nd SW the rangers where big enough that the AFFS was about to absorb them as new brigade and the.Duke of Verde at the time had them go merc to avoid that.
Basically I think it's a way to ensure no one other than the 3 big families in the suns can amass too many troops under their direct command and pay
 
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On the sarna page of the 12th vegan rangers. Basically during the 2nd SW the rangers where big enough that the AFFS was about to absorb them as new brigade and the.Duke of Verde at the time had them go merc to avoid that.
Basically I think it's a way to ensure no one other than the 3 big families in the suns can amass too many troops under their direct command and pay
Thats an interesting bit of lore, I'll have to check an see if there is anything more in the book, but yeah I wasn't aware of that being a thing for the FedSuns

like I think its kind of sort of a thing in the Lyran Commonwealth with the archon being to call up house troops for federal service

but yeah your intuited reasoning makes sense
 
On a unrelated note. Poor Hanse. Due to me forgetting I had it's design laying around till it was too late he didn't get to see the Sharpe as one of the mechs showed off on NA. Aka a Battlemaster that lost weight and learned to jump.
 
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Whether Henry keeps the logo of the units or not (I suspect he's keeping it judging by the holographic emblem), any Dragoon analysis is likely to give things away either way seeing as they still keep the art style of the clan. And the future DC raid will make any doubts vanish.

On a unrelated note. Poor Hanse. Due to me forgetting I had it's design laying around till it was too late he didn't get to see the Sharpe as one of the mechs showed off on NA. Aka a Battlemaster that lost weight and learned to jump.
The Sharpe is certainly a good alternative. It has the the Beemer's front-facing loadout so it isn't really losing any punch, and for only about 1.5 tons of armor leas it's a lot cheaper and more mobile as well. I suspect for those looking for a command mech, most will prefer the price tag and mobility of the Sharpe, but I think there'll still be a market for the BattleMaster for the durability, brawling ability and prestige of an Assault mech. And I suppose we'll see which one is Hanse looking for if it ever gets produced.
 
Whether Henry keeps the logo of the units or not (I suspect he's keeping it judging by the holographic emblem), any Dragoon analysis is likely to give things away either way seeing as they still keep the art style of the clan. And the future DC raid will make any doubts vanish.


The Sharpe is certainly a good alternative. It has the the Beemer's front-facing loadout so it isn't really losing any punch, and for only about 1.5 tons of armor leas it's a lot cheaper and more mobile as well. I suspect for those looking for a command mech, most will prefer the price tag and mobility of the Sharpe, but I think there'll still be a market for the BattleMaster for the durability, brawling ability and prestige of an Assault mech. And I suppose we'll see which one is Hanse looking for if it ever gets produced.
Ok I think there may be some confusion in the ending section

The RAC's current unit patch is probably a red flag Hells horse color scheme to the dragoons

But in this case the SLDF troops logo is who we were talking about at the end, I'll reiterate its a rearing horse with the number 19 on it.

Yes its understandable that might be mistaken for HH, but ... well You'll see what I had in mind as we go forward especially if Henry needs to spin troops off as 'mercenaries' ala Bofor's point regarding 12th VR [who are apparently a full 'mech brigade so we're not quite there yet]
 
Ok I think there may be some confusion in the ending section

The RAC's current unit patch is probably a red flag Hells horse color scheme to the dragoons

But in this case the SLDF troops logo is who we were talking about at the end, I'll reiterate its a rearing horse with the number 19 on it.

Yes its understandable that might be mistaken for HH, but ... well You'll see what I had in mind as we go forward especially if Henry needs to spin troops off as 'mercenaries' ala Bofor's point regarding 12th VR [who are apparently a full 'mech brigade so we're not quite there yet]
Ah, I see. With the horse symbol and talk of reinforcements I assumed it was the insignia of the RAC being spawned. But with that description and the ELH commander coming for a meeting about Amaris-Combine treachery, I presume they were reminiscing about the destroyed 19th Striker Regiment of the 3rd RCT.
 
Ok I think there may be some confusion in the ending section

The RAC's current unit patch is probably a red flag Hells horse color scheme to the dragoons

But in this case the SLDF troops logo is who we were talking about at the end, I'll reiterate its a rearing horse with the number 19 on it.

Yes its understandable that might be mistaken for HH, but ... well You'll see what I had in mind as we go forward especially if Henry needs to spin troops off as 'mercenaries' ala Bofor's point regarding 12th VR [who are apparently a full 'mech brigade so we're not quite there yet]
To be fair the 12th VR are literally 4 mech regiments all told which makes them one of the largest merc units around. And well....there's a lot of AFFS Brigades that are 2 or so regiments either originally or in the present date.
So yeah I can totally see why the Federal and March government of the time didn't like a random Duke having formal control of that many troops
 
Ah, I see. With the horse symbol and talk of reinforcements I assumed it was the insignia of the RAC being spawned. But with that description and the ELH commander coming for a meeting about Amaris-Combine treachery, I presume they were reminiscing about the destroyed 19th Striker Regiment of the 3rd RCT.
To be fair I also wasn't thinking that the 19 and Horse could very well have potentially been misconstrued as

Hells Horse coming from the 19th Army lineage
 
The Sharpe is certainly a good alternative. It has the the Beemer's front-facing loadout so it isn't really losing any punch, and for only about 1.5 tons of armor leas it's a lot cheaper and more mobile as well. I suspect for those looking for a command mech, most will prefer the price tag and mobility of the Sharpe, but I think there'll still be a market for the BattleMaster for the durability, brawling ability and prestige of an Assault mech. And I suppose we'll see which one is Hanse looking for if it ever gets produced.
that was the idea behind the sharpe a cheaper but more mobile cousin of the battlemaster.
that being said the beemer can be made a lot more durable via pulling the 2nd ton of SRM ammo and maybe the aft mediums to add either 1 forward firing medium laser or 2 more MGs and using the other 2 tons for maxing the armor. And maybe if not adding more MGs cut down the ammo to a half ton and wack in a small laser or something. Or cut them entirely and add a flammer in their place
Still as is vs the stock beemer the sharpe probably is more durable in many ways given it doesn't have 3 tons of ammo in one side torso vs just 1.
 
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To be fair I also wasn't thinking that the 19 and Horse could very well have potentially been misconstrued as

Hells Horse coming from the 19th Army lineage


Okay that makes more sense as a cover. You'd mentioned ELH troops or officers being around Henry and my mind carried me over to the Fed Suns intel people cataloging the new troops and maybe hearing or seeing enough to piece together a 19th Strikers connection. Claiming Henry's….faction? Is descended from disparate SLDF remnants with some still wearing the 19th army patch would work pretty well. The only issue with any cover Henry uses is that he has several different cultural groups working for him.
 
Okay that makes more sense as a cover. You'd mentioned ELH troops or officers being around Henry and my mind carried me over to the Fed Suns intel people cataloging the new troops and maybe hearing or seeing enough to piece together a 19th Strikers connection. Claiming Henry's….faction? Is descended from disparate SLDF remnants with some still wearing the 19th army patch would work pretty well. The only issue with any cover Henry uses is that he has several different cultural groups working for him.
Right, and the implication of the opening of NA1.7 is that the Elemental, the infantry officer who is totally not there in case someone tries to assassinate him, who brought up Amaris and Kurita is reiterating that hey Amaris people are still out there as well. If that gets back to WolfNet, they can take that and go back to comments in late Sakhara 1 and in Sakhara 2 regarding that they're (Henry and Friends) just as hostile to Amaris as they are the Combine. Now that is a much spicier issue because it implies Hells Horse is perhaps sending organized formations to hunt for blood name rights (killing an Amaris-kin) without the the council's approval, that helps but it has potential other unwanted attention draws.

But also that is pretty much a 'Hey Wolfs you should not work for the Combine' coming from a nominally clanner source.
 
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