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Trials of the God-Harem King [Highschool DxD/Exalted] (CLOSED)

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Diller said:
The whole reason we're doing the reverse the evil pieces thing is so we can boost mortals to be more on par with suoernatural creatures. We're also planning on using it to be able to tell things like non-exalted can't use CMA or SMA to go fuck themselves.

If Shigure's really good now she'll be Glorious after being boosted by us.
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As good as Shigure is, if we really needed to start specializing in crafting we'd overtake her in a heartbeat. No power-up short of an Exaltation can make a mortal better at something than a Solar who specializes in that area.

Granted, that's not a reason to skip her; if we have Shigure around we can probably get away with never needing to invest EXP into crafting, which means more for magic and combat and stuff. If circumstances force us to invest in it ourselves though, she'll fall by the wayside fairly quickly.

nightblade said:
I'm pretty sure Ravel's canon characterization is two dimensional as well. And you still want to get her.
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I like Ravel's design and personality and I think Alexander can probably salvage her characterization. The others are just kind of 'meh' to me on all counts, Irina especially. Kuroka at least has the misunderstood criminal thing going between her and Koneko.
 
Remember, there is always the unthinkable optiosn of "one-night-stands" and "friends with benefits" so Issei and the target can embace their carnal desires without obligation on either side.

Sort of a catch-and-release rather than a cath-em-all system.
 
Smuthunter said:
As good as Shigure is, if we really needed to start specializing in crafting we'd overtake her in a heartbeat. No power-up short of an Exaltation can make a mortal better at something than a Solar who specializes in that area.

Granted, that's not a reason to skip her; if we have Shigure around we can probably get away with never needing to invest EXP into crafting, which means more for magic and combat and stuff. If circumstances force us to invest in it ourselves though, she'll fall by the wayside fairly quickly.
I like Ravel's design and personality and I think Alexander can probably salvage her characterization. The others are just kind of 'meh' to me on all counts, Irina especially. Kuroka at least has the misunderstood criminal thing going between her and Koneko.
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Or we could take advantage of not being the only person capable of crafting around. Also Kuroka is hot. And she did what she did for her sister. Which is better than Ravels canon characterization.
 
Smuthunter said:
As good as Shigure is, if we really needed to start specializing in crafting we'd overtake her in a heartbeat. No power-up short of an Exaltation can make a mortal better at something than a Solar who specializes in that area.

Granted, that's not a reason to skip her; if we have Shigure around we can probably get away with never needing to invest EXP into crafting, which means more for magic and combat and stuff. If circumstances force us to invest in it ourselves though, she'll fall by the wayside fairly quickly.
I like Ravel's design and personality and I think Alexander can probably salvage her characterization. The others are just kind of 'meh' to me on all counts, Irina especially. Kuroka at least has the misunderstood criminal thing going between her and Koneko.
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Good your seeing the point I was trying to make for Shigure. Not to mention to gives us another powerful fighter on our side. Which with the enemies coming our way is only a good thing. Besides having another person that can craft something when we don't have the time to do it could prove useful.

I mean we're going to be better at martial arts then Shougo and already are but we still recruited him because he will still be a good ally in the future.
 
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HypoSoc said:
Remember, there is always the unthinkable optiosn of "one-night-stands" and "friends with benefits" so Issei and the target can embace their carnal desires without obligation on either side.

Sort of a catch-and-release rather than a cath-em-all system.
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I doubt Issei is capable of that.
 
nightblade said:
Or we could take advantage of not being the only person capable of crafting around. Also Kuroka is hot. And she did what she did for her sister. Which is better than Ravels canon characterization.
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I won't argue that Kuroka is pretty noble when you expose her real reasons for doing things, but Ravel's character and her reasoning for falling for Issei is supposedly built off of wanting to serve something bigger than herself and being surrounded all her life by self-serving politicians. I can construct my own vision of her character based on that principle even if the series itself won't do so (for example, "she's an idealist who got worn down into being a cynic until she met Issei and started to believe in heroes again"). I can't do the same for Xenovia and Irina.
 
Smuthunter said:
I won't argue that Kuroka is pretty noble when you expose her real reasons for doing things, but Ravel's character and her reasoning for falling for Issei is supposedly built off of wanting to serve something bigger than herself and being surrounded all her life by self-serving politicians. I can construct my own vision of her character based on that principle even if the series itself won't do so (for example, "she's an idealist who got worn down into being a cynic until she met Issei and started to believe in heroes again"). I can't do the same for Xenovia and Irina.
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You should notice I didn't mention them.
 
Smuthunter said:
If we're talking about two-dimensional DxD characters then Xenovia and Irina are always relevant. So is Rossweiss for that matter.
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Well, at least for now we know Rossweisse being a genius but couldn't inherit her family's magic crest so there you go her background.
 
Smuthunter said:
I won't argue that Kuroka is pretty noble when you expose her real reasons for doing things, but Ravel's character and her reasoning for falling for Issei is supposedly built off of wanting to serve something bigger than herself and being surrounded all her life by self-serving politicians. I can construct my own vision of her character based on that principle even if the series itself won't do so (for example, "she's an idealist who got worn down into being a cynic until she met Issei and started to believe in heroes again"). I can't do the same for Xenovia and Irina.
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That's mostly because we haven't gotten much into their backstories amd personalities. Ishibumi's kind of neglected character development for alot of characters until recently. I mean Rosewiesse was introduced back in vol 5 and has been part of the group since vol 7 and we just got her backstory and character development for her in vol 17.(Vol 18 which just came out is Irina's volume so there's bound to be alot more about her and vol 19 is Xenovia.



Besides Alex made Aika and the fallen angel squad that got pwned by Ise and Rias in the first damn volume into much more interesting characters. I have faith he could do the same with other characters Which is great because my personal goal for the harem is to have at least the canon harem in addition to new girls.
 
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Diller said:
That's mostly because we haven't gotten much into their backstories amd personalities. Ishibumi's kind of neglected character development for alot of characters until recently. I mean Rosewiesse was introduced back in vol 5 and has been part of the group since vol 7 and we just got her backstory and character development for her in vol 17.(Vol 18 which just came out is Irina's volume so there's bound to be alot more about her and vol 19 is Xenovia.

Besides Alex made Aika and the fallen angel squad that got pwned by Ise and Rias in the first damn volume into much more interesting characters. I have faith he could do the same with other characters Which is great because my personal goal for the harem is to have at least the canon harem in addition to new girls.
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Aika and the fallen angel mooks are an improvement, but they started with little more than a name and a face so fleshing them out at all isn't terribly difficult. I'm looking forward to more character development from those characters before I call them a complete success story.
 
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touhou ranfuku said:
Well, at least for now we know Rossweisse being a genius but couldn't inherit her family's magic crest so there you go her background.
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That's putting it simplstically. She's a magical genius but wasn't good at her family's style of magic and despite being the oldest child of her clam she couldn't inherit the family crest. She's also disheartened that she isn't as good a Valkyrie as her grandmother.

She feels that all that time she spent neglecting her youth(the date with Ise is the first date she ever had even though she's 18) by studying so she could graduate early was wasted thanks to not being a really exceptional Valkyrie like her grandmother.


She mentioned that not being able to reach the expectations of those around her made her nervous of her future and that's who she takes money so seriously. She still doesn't know what she really wants to do so she feels lost and like she's going into circle. She became a devil to make a change in her life and find what she's looking.

The reason she lasted the longest as Odin's escort is because she felt it was a job worth doing despite how troublesome it was and it made her happy.

She even feels like she needs to apologize to her mother for not living up to her expectations even though nobody in her family has blamed her for not inheriting the family skills and they don't treat her any differently because of it,


Tldr. She feels like a failure for not being able to inherit the family crest or be as good a Valkyrie as her grandmother despite her talents and no one in her family holding it against her. This makes her feel that all that time she spent in her youth studying and learning instead of enjoying it like the rest of her peers was wasted. Also She feels like she's lost and just going in circles because she didn't inherit the family crest or become a Valkyrie like her grandmother like she was expected to and her money thing comes from that feeling of not knowing where she'll be in the future.
 
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Megaolix said:
Made a quick check myself. Way too much stuff to read, but in summary? Defensive place with powers one can live in. So castle may actually be more right. More like manor if it's visible, since a castle would be weird to see for anyone else. Unless we make it hidden.
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Actually your missing a number of the subtleties. For one in Exalted the definition of a Manse is 'Construction designed to harness the power of a Demesne', where a Demesne is defined as 'A place of (Magical) power'. To give you some examples: a symbol engraved in a cliff-face, A massive statue, Stonehenge, Angkor Wat, the Pyramids, a floating island, a fortress, or manor are all valid Manses. Frankly since the Manse Bright want's built is going to be in the middle of a public park I'm doubtful that we'll actually be able to live in it. Well at least unless one of the instructions is to buy the entire park at any rate; wouldn't put that past Bright-sensei.
 
Well, considering how much cash we're sinking in this, I hope it's not all just for something just Bright want. Unless you guys don't mind Issei staying with his parents and just renovating the place with more money like canon?
 
I can see issei's parents having an aneurysm at issei getting his own place or having a joyous celebration and then going on a trip around the world XD cant decide which is funnier.
 
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[X] Deadpan look. "That's the same thing."
-[X] You sigh before a line from an anime jumps at the forefront of your mind and you smirk...

"You can't get something without offering something of equal value in exchange." You raise a finger, and suddenly she is the one with a confused expression. "I accept your challenge, but if you lose, you must henceforth refer to me as Onii-chama, and when in my presence you must end all your sentences with ~Nyan."
--[X] If she doesn't agree with the conditions, then look disappointed. "Hoo, so you make wagers that only work in your favor, huh?"
 
noahgab1133 said:
I can see issei's parents having an aneurysm at issei getting his own place or having a joyous celebration and then going on a trip around the world XD cant decide which is funnier.
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Trip 'round the world. They might send back souvenirs or need to be rescued, but either way they don't come to visit at the most inopportune of times.
 
Why the fuck is Smut so up in arms about keeping everyone out of the harem just because they aren't as strong as us? That is a bullshit reason to exclude someone, and I also happen to like the girls he so against. Really, what is so wrong with having mortal loved ones? Of course those mortal loved will eventually either become half-castes or part of our soul structure so I guess they're not so mortal anymore.
 
Introspective Tinkerer said:
Why the fuck is Smut so up in arms about keeping everyone out of the harem just because they aren't as strong as us? That is a bullshit reason to exclude someone, and I also happen to like the girls he so against. Really, what is so wrong with having mortal loved ones? Of course those mortal loved will eventually either become half-castes or part of our soul structure so I guess they're not so mortal anymore.
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To be fair to Smut he's said on multiple occasions the main reason doesn't want the other girls because he doesn't like their personalities and feels they'll take away time from girls he does like.

Others might disagree but it is a valid position. Though Alex asked we stop this kind of conversation and I really don't want another 1-2 pages on this shit again so please end this train of thought now.

It will only cause tempers to flare and people to start acting like assholes to each other on purpose.
 
[X] Deadpan look. "That's the same thing."
-[X] You sigh before a line from an anime jumps at the forefront of your mind and you smirk...

"You can't get something without offering something of equal value in exchange." You raise a finger, and suddenly she is the one with a confused expression. "I accept your challenge, but if you lose, you must henceforth refer to me as Onii-chama, and when in my presence you must end all your sentences with ~Nyan."
--[X] If she doesn't agree with the conditions, then look disappointed. "Hoo, so you make wagers that only work in your favor, huh?"
 
Wait wait wait, let me get this straight, Smuthunter is against going for Kisara because he doesn't want clutter shit up with random girls that we'll end up not caring about (which is 100% legit and I completely support despite the fact that I'm also a fan of Kisara), but he was cool with us randomly hooking up with Aika despite the fact that not only is she weaker than Kisara (and all the others), she has less characterization than Kisara (and all the others), and at the rate this quest is going she'll be in fewer updates than Kisara (and legit everybody in this quest apart from Issei's parents).

tl;dr Somebody not being important and the fact that they'll be forgotten about right about sex has never stopped people from wanting smut with them, and well, it isn't going to stop any time soon from the way things are going.
 
wait why are you guys voting for the plan the gm said was a bad idea D:

gah what is happening with this thread D:
 
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So far its still not winning so that's something I guess *assuming you mean the troll vote anyway*
 
[X] Deadpan look. "That's the same thing."
-[X] You sigh before a line from an anime jumps at the forefront of your mind and you smirk...

"You can't get something without offering something of equal value in exchange." You raise a finger, and suddenly she is the one with a confused expression. "I accept your challenge, but if you lose, you will not bother me with joining Ragnarok again... Also, you won't tell your bosses that you saw me."
--[X] If she doesn't agree with the conditions, then look disappointed. "Hoo, so you make wagers that only work in your favor, huh?"
 
Because I'm tired of seeing Issei repress so much of his urges.
Is it even Issei anymore if he doesn't take this chance?
And it's not like we're asking for the moon, we can always revoke the request later.
 
Repress?

His motivations and personality changed and matured as a result of what he went through. He gained several loyal followers and lovers. He's involved in things way beyond the realm of regular mortals, not as someone's servant but as a separate power. And last but not least, he slept with several girls already. You can't look at him like at the canon Issei, and he's not really repressing anything. He is just different from canon, which was inevitable. To put it bluntly, we don't have as much of a reason to seek oppai as before because we found quite a lot of it already. I mean, if you had someone - or even several people - devoted to you so much, would you go around looking for more?

I've got nothing against making more friends, mind you. Besides, with our current luck and stellar looks, we'll be gaining more followers at a decent rate anyway, so why rush things? We'll end up with less time to spend with each person, and lord knows whether we'll have enough of it seeing as we have to think about future fights - Vali, for example.
 
Honestly, if people wanted a follower, it'd be better to make a good/strong impression now than to actually FORCE someone into joining them.

It really leaves a bad taste in my mouth that there are people voting to do the exact same thing a person in YOMI would do - beat up some guy and tell them that they belong to us now.
 
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